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BBP - 4-12-2010 at 13:05

It's December 4th once more, meaning it's time for Zappadan! Yahoo!

So this year I'll again try to listen to all FZ albums from Dec 4 to Dec 21st!

Note to self: spread the YCDTOSA series some more.

punknaynowned - 4-12-2010 at 19:18

maybe backwards or from the middle out:biggrin:

Civ III, Yellow Shark,PP, Ahead of their Time, ycdtosa6...

or

Suapygsm, rosuapyg, suapyg, yawyi, tinseltown, satltsadw, jg2/3, mfu, jg1, bbsnx, orchestral favorites and so on...

[Edited on 4-12-10 by punknaynowned]

BBP - 6-12-2010 at 20:33

I got off to a slow start, with St Nicholas and that cursed snow. But on the 5th I played:
Freak Out - MOFO version
MOFO sounds a lot cleaner than Ryko, which is why I'm all the happier with this purchase from three years ago. I should play it more often.
While packing St Nick gifts I noticed what a gorgeous composition You Didn't Try To Call Me is, from the catchy chorus to the daring tempo changes.

Today I decided to make up for lost ground:
(Notes will follow tomorrow when I feel more like typing)
Absolutely Free - Ryko
Has a slightly grubby sound to it, looking forward to a proper reissue. Uncle Bernie's Farm has amazing lyrics!

Lumpy Gravy - Ryko
A gorgeous collection of orchestral music and the occasional surf tune. One of my favourites.

WOIIFTM - Ryko
I really need to get Lumpy Money.

Uncle Meat - Ryko
The scenes from Uncle Meat may be found tedious by some, and to be honest I felt it was obscuring the music too much, but it does really set the movie for the poor fresh fan who doesn't have the film. I'm also enamoured by Tengo Na Minchia Tanta. And yes, I know what it means. It's fun when chatting online to Italians.

Cruisin' With Ruben And The Jets - Greasy Love Songs
Listening to this gave me a bit of a brainwave.
What if all the concerts had made FZ a little sensitive to noises? We use the term "noise deafness". It is frequent with people who were confronted with 80 dB or more for a long time. Maybe cymbals sounded like fingernails on blackboard to Frank.
The reason why I wonder is that the cymbals on Ruben sound rather ear-piercing to me.

To Be Edited...

BBP - 7-12-2010 at 12:40

6 Dec: Hot Rats vinyl
Wow, it does sound like a different album! I found the keyboards a little pressed to the background, which was particularly noticeable in Little Umbrellas.
Frank makes an excellent use of his violinists. It is a shame he hardly used the instrument in a rock combo after OS.

7 Dec: Burnt Weeny Sandwich Ryko
An early acquisition, and one of my favourites. Occasionally I'd climb out of bed just to listen to Little House, making it the first, and one of few, songs that could get me out of bed. Sugar Cane Harris' violin solo on Little House is intense.
Another one that struck me today was the Theme To BWS, which often gets overlooked with so much colour around it.

Weasels Ripped My Flesh Ryko
It may not be one of my favourites, but today's listening was a surprising lot of fun. The gems lie towards the end of the album, with My GUitar Wants To Kill Your Mama, Oh No and Orange County Lumber Truck. Before that I occasionally find the vocals irritating.

BBP - 7-12-2010 at 21:50

Chunga's Revenge Zappa Records
Got a recent listening due to me having Road Ladies in my head.
One question I'd like to ask FZ: Don't you ever get tired of the 12 Bar Blues?
The answer would probably be: "Never!"

200 Motels Ryko CD
The vocals on the album are very distant. They are recorded live, as FZ wanted to have the orchestra playing the music on film since he hated bad sync (don't we all?). CD 2 is a strong favourite of mine.

Fillmore East, June '71 vinyl
Got to pay more attention to it somehow: discovered that Bwana Dik is a great song, along with Latex Solar Beef. Yay!

Just Another Band From LA
And that concludes the Flo & Eddie period. Flo & Eddie really show they're having a lot of merry fun all over the stage.

punknaynowned - 8-12-2010 at 08:15
Quote:

Another one that struck me today was the Theme To BWS, which often gets overlooked with so much colour around it.


This was THE song that made me realize there were other things going on with fz's music that wasn't what was available elsewhere. The layers!

I got BWS early on too. Used this record and this song as test patterns when shopping for speakers 17 years ago. It was a barking pumpkin cd. Now I listen to an iTune copy of that version. I have a reprise record (with the steamboat on the label) with a bizarre label logo on the cover. What a mess. The piano warmth on Aybe Sea is a plus. So is the studio Valarie. I digress.

punknaynowned - 8-12-2010 at 08:29

People relate to 12 bar blues music because they've heard it all their lives.
Since it became widely available 60 years ago.

On the other hand, I remember sitting on the floor against the wall at a gathering of people in upstate Traverse City, Michigan. It had to be February. We walking around from place to place essentially looking for a party. Before and after a single bar that had live music. One of them played an acoustic Jimi Hendrix song. I knew I was among friends, basically a tourist, but I think someone must have put something in my drink which was water and tea all night. Anyway, in one of the homes we went into, I found myself amidst all the coats of our three group posse, against a wall, looking at the window frames and the light fixtures and the shadows they cast when I heard a faint but common refrain 'Eddie Are You Kidding?' coming from somewhere. I went up to find where it was coming from and indeed it was the JABFLA album that someone had put on randomly to have something on. I've only seen only one of any of those people again. And that was several years again later, because the next day I flew back to Kansas and the next day after that boarded a train in Hutchinson, KS which took me to Pasadena, CA over the mountains and through the deserts.


[Edited on 8-12-10 by punknaynowned]

BBP - 8-12-2010 at 11:06

Nice! Unexpected Zappa is the best!

Waka/Jawaka, Ryko
Holds one of the tunes on my first Zappa album Son Of Cheep Thrills. The vocal songs are lovely tunes with a country twist. The lengthy instrumentals surrounding it are charming jazz pieces. Although none of the tracks stick as well as, say, Eat That Question off Grand Wazoo, this is a highly enjoyable, accessible, non-offensive album I'd easily recommend to anyone.

The Grand Wazoo, Zappa Records
Bob Stone's remix sounds great! It is an awesome album, crowned by Eat That Question. I've praised the theme many times but the keyboard solo and particularly the guitar solo are also worth kneeling for!

[Edited on 8-12-10 by BBP]

BBP - 8-12-2010 at 18:15

YCDTOSA Vol 1
Spreading the YCDTOSA series a little better this time: listening to one of them in full is still much, but it beats listening to two in a day! YCDTOSA 1 has some sections of Early Mothers and an interesting Big Swifty to tie in to the listening section of earlier today. But a true goldmine is the twenty minutes of Yellow Snow live, with the poetry recital. Frank's way of dealing with drunk fans onstage just can't be beat!

[Edited on 9-12-11 by BBP]

punknaynowned - 8-12-2010 at 20:22

also listened to Grand Wazoo and Waka/Jawaka. I guess it had been such a long time for Grand Wazoo/Cleetus and for Calvin I hadn't paid such close attention to the percussion - it sounded all new to me. Surprises aplenty from Aynsley Dunbar!

BBP - 8-12-2010 at 21:09

Over-Nite Sensation
Entering the mid-70s, the Warner years, the top notch albums... Over-Nite Sensation is a great listen! I'm enjoying the vocals by Lancelotti (yes, I'm rare) and the whole catchiness of the album. Every song has a hook to it!

Apostrophe (')
Oh yeah, oh yeah... everything... everything... everything's gonna be alright this morning! Top class album, from start to finish!
It's surprising how topical Father O'Blivion has gotten isn't it?

BBP - 9-12-2010 at 12:19

9 Dec promises to be another great day!
One Size Fits All (Ryko) just gets better every time I hear it!

Roxy & Elsewhere (Ryko): the cowbell as symbol of unbridled passion!
Has many BB favourites but the lengthier tracks do tend to get skipped by yours truly: shame because Bebop Tango is a delight!
(also: on the cover, that's Brenda clutching Frank there.)

BBP - 9-12-2010 at 20:24

ZINY is hilarious, FZ showcases himself as both prolific composer (I Promise Not To Cum In Your Mouth, "a sensitive instrumental for late-nite easy listening") and a show man (No, I'M the slime!)

I finally got the chance to read the liner notes, and now that I know that the ending + conclusion of Illinois Enema Bandit is a parody of traditional blues mythology, I'm much less offended at it.

Note to self: check if re-aleased is in the Printing Mishtakes topic.

BBP - 10-12-2010 at 10:33

Bongo Fury is still in my low-play list, even though I discovered its wonders last year. Hearing it is always a lot of fun.

Zoot Allures never ceases to amaze me in its low, low, low sonority. It is beautifully deep throughout. Wino Man doesn't get enough love!

Now playing: Studio Tan, the Adventures Of Greggery Peccary! Voodn!

BBP - 10-12-2010 at 17:49

I've been blessed enough to find Sleep Dirt on vinyl before I found the CD. The record cost me 7 euros, at a stand on Europe's largest book market in Deventer. It was the ONLY Zappa item I found that day, and I saw much. Too much. But that's another story.

Either way, while listening to Joe's Garage, I can't help but think how different Läther sounds from SD in some cases. There was a nice acoustic guitar track called Time Is Money, but I couldn't find it back on Läther.

Sleep Dirt provides much more of a background, probably because three of its songs were written with lyrics, as part of Hutchentoot. All the same, Filthy Habits and Ocean/Solution are very strong tracks. Flambay (spelled Flambé on Läther) is a delightful jazzy track, and Re-Gyptian Strut reminds me of Cleetus Awreetus Awrightus.

BBP - 11-12-2010 at 09:46

Quote: Originally posted by BBP  
You Are What You Is Vol 1
Spreading the YAWYI series a little better this time: listening to one of them in full is still much, but it beats listening to two in a day! YAWYI 1 has some sections of Early Mothers and an interesting Big Swifty to tie in to the listening section of earlier today. But a true goldmine is the twenty minutes of Yellow Snow live, with the poetry recital. Frank's way of dealing with drunk fans onstage just can't be beat!


WHY didn't anybody tell me???
Of course I was talking about YCDTOSA.

Right now I'm listening to disk 2 of Joe's Garage. Yesterday I did Disk 1. "He used to cut my grass, he was a very nice boy!"

BBP - 11-12-2010 at 11:25

Playing TTR on my laptop: excellent way to not be troubled by the CD damage! Huzzah!

Thanks to that I'm finally able to listen to Pick Me I'm Clean and Bamboozled By Love a little better. PMIC has a great brass section!

Also does anyone know the name of that "Italy" tune FZ uses to reference Italy?

[Edited on 11-12-10 by BBP]

BBP - 11-12-2010 at 17:52

So it was the big day I was going to initiate my St Nick present: the YAWYI vinyl. Finally I was going to be able to hear the original You Are What You Is!

So, fasten your seatbelts...

Doreen has a great lead guitar at the end, but it wasn't a great idea to have the vocals continuing through it. The singer is the first thing you listen to, plus with the two voices it sounds very messy.

Several of the songs make interesting links to others. Goblin Girl (especially the slower HIOS version) ties to Jewish Princess, Society Pages reminds me of Rudy Wants To Buy Yez A Drink, Conehead links to Dirty Love and Jumbo Go Away links to Drowning Witch.

Sinister Footwear 3 sounds pretty good!
---
And now: the other side.

One documentary I once saw dealt with a boy from Central America, 19 years old. When he was 12 he was shot in the jaw. He was rescued at the hospital with a WW2 emergency surgery: the doctors built an extra vein on the outside of the body from the chest to the mouth, and used chest skin to build the flesh around it.
So. the poor boy's head was stuck to his chest through a silly tube. After he had recovered, the doctors wouldn't operate him to make it back normal, since it was unneeded. The boy suffered malnutrition because he couldn't use his mouth well, and the construction had deformed his jaw. And he couldn't move his head.

The boy was taken to the States, where he had sponsored surgery, his jaw was reconstructed from plastic, and the tube that attached his head to his chest had been removed. The first thing he did when he woke up was tilt his head in every direction as much as he could: something he hadn't been able to do in seven years. Like a cow in the meadow for the first time in spring.

I imagine it's how Frank felt when the UMRK was finally at his disposal: using whatever he could to make his music ring out.
Particularly the vocals have been spiced: many of them sound double. There is very, very much singing.

By the time I had reached Sinister Footwear I was really tired of the Ray White/Ike Willis/FZ vocal combo. Tough luck: they go on and on and on. By comparison I heard very little guitar: although there are two rhythm guitarists, I couldn't distinguish them at all.

Also it was very confusing to hear four bars of Dumb All Over after flipping the record at the start of Jumbo.

On the CD I often got a headache by the time Teenage Wind was finally over. With the vinyl I noticed it at Charlie's Enormous Mouth: pounding and nauseating, pressing so badly I had to pause for several minutes after the first half.

YAWYI continues to be my least favourite FZ, and I have three copies of it to prove it. :freak:

BBP - 11-12-2010 at 20:42

YCDTOSA vol 2: The Helsinki Concert
WIth unknown engineer and in an unknown venue, the Roxy band performs a stunning and hilarious concert! The Whipping Post section gets me every time. I'm also enamoured by the instrumental section of Village Of The Sun, Room Service, Dupree's Paradise with finger cymbals, and Satuuma. But the entire album is a great listen!

BBP - 11-12-2010 at 21:16

Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch

I acquired this disk on Dec 5 2001, as St Nick present, when I was a fresh Zappa fan. It was my first non-compilation abum. A month and a half later I purchased the second. That was Apostrophe.
In the mean time, I had every opportunity to enjoy this album, I'd often listen to it whilst solving jigsaws (which is coincidentally what I was doing when I listened to SOCT for the first three times, and how I got into HIOS. I am a monster at jigsaws.) and got to enjoy it thoroughly.

In re-browsing through the Worst Album line, I am a bit gutted to see Ship pop up in it occasionally: it is a tiny little gem to me. Starting humorously and cheerily with No Not Now, there's something about Frank's voice here that makes me smile.
Valley Girl was the song that made me want to have the album in the first place. As it's primarily a comedy song, it takes care not to over-listen to it.In the main theme I can just hear the teenage girl head popping side to side in Val fashion.
I Come From Nowhere is a song that I didn't like much initially, but I'm enjoying it more and more.

The title track is gorgeous. There's no other word for it, the composition is so intricate, the guitar mimicking the witch laugh...
Envelopes got played a lot by yours truly. It wasn't until Burnt Weeny Sandwich that I got over my fear of long songs after all. Envelopes too is a great, lovable melody.
And then, Lisa Popeil's tour de force, soprano over a metal song. It's a strange effect: mostly when female falsetto is used in hardrock it's used in goth/emo style like Within Temptaion or After Forever. Or it is a brief gimmick, like in Cradle of Filth. Kudos to Lisa, who can sing about anything!

polydigm - 12-12-2010 at 00:44

What happened to Sheik Yerbouti and Orchestral Favorites? I know you've got the latter album.

BBP - 12-12-2010 at 13:17

I've played them both but apparently forgot to tell you all.

BBP - 12-12-2010 at 14:30

At any rate, now I've arrived at Baby Snakes, I recalled that I now understand the lyrics to Jones Crusher.
And there I was thinking it was about celebrity crushing...

BBP - 12-12-2010 at 14:39

The Man From Utopia (Ryko)
Last year I gave a bad review of this album, but up to The Dangerous Kitchen it is actually a very enjoyable album. Granted, Cocaine Decision is not my favourite track, but I can still listen to it. I love SEX of course, Tink Walks Amok is an awesome instrumental,and Radio/Broken is OK, We Are Not Alone is a fantastic melody, and Dangerous Kitchen may have sprechstimme but it's still fun.
After that comes Man From Utopia vd Mary Lou, not the best cover, it's a bit messy. Stick Together is highly unenthusiastic, Jazz Discharge Party Hatsmay have gross lyrics, and it has Sprechstimme, but you've got to admire Vai's capability of playing that along perfectly.

Luigi & The Wise Guys is simply put an earsore.

And there's Moggio, which is gorgeous.

So far, UMRK hasn't brought me much good as a fan.

BBP - 12-12-2010 at 14:43

Baby Snakes (Zappa Records)

I occasionally hear crackle, as if it was recorded using the LP as master.
Baby Snakes may not have any original tracks, although the title track is slowed down compared to Sheik Yerbouti (but I understod SY was recorded sped up). It is all the same a lot of fun to listen to. Plus it has "my" Disco Boy: the one that drew me into FZ all those years ago.

BBP - 12-12-2010 at 20:41

London Symphony Orchestra vol 1 & 2, Ryko CD

This album is apparently best to listen to as background, which I did this time around while drawing. It is occasionally lovely, like in Bogus Pomp, but with the little rehearsal time, the orchestra is a complete mess at times. Poor Frank!
Kent Nagano has received negative heat on the Z-forum, but I find him a good conductor. He also did Varèse's orchestral works with the Orchestre National de France, with Phyllis Bryn-Julson ("And every poor soul who's adrift in the storm...") as soprano on Nocturnal.

BBP - 12-12-2010 at 21:13

The Perfect Stranger

The UMRK presents four Synclavier pieces. Of those two, Love Story and Outside Now Again are not exactly benefitting from Frank's new-found preciseness: both sound far from great. In Outside Now this is caused by the percussion-like staccato notes.

Fortunately the other two (Magnesium Dress and Jonestown) sound a lot better: former has those harp-like quick notes, and Jonestown is particularly chilling.
Recently I read "Earthly Powers" by Anthony Burgess, a masterpiece of literature. In it, Burgess describes an event that may be fictuous, but clearly roots in the Jonestown events. Jonestown may have occurred in 1978, but the impact it made can be clearly seen from art like Earthly Powers, or this Zappa piece.

The true star of Perfect Stranger are the three orchestral pieces, conducted into perfection by Pierre Boulez. Dupree's Paradise particularly sounds nothing short of amazing.

BBP - 13-12-2010 at 10:46

Thing-Fish (Ryko) is another 80s album that doesn't receive as much love as it deserves... granted the briefcase scene is too much, and Ike Willis' accent gets annoying, but there are quite a few good songs on it. Today's surprise discovery is Clowns On Velvet. Try it!

BBP - 13-12-2010 at 15:36

Them Or Us
TOU is a fun album,most of it anyway. Although it starts badly with a whiny cover song, In France quicly helps the pace up.
Some of the songs do not have strong foundations: Little Frogs for instance. Baby Take Your Teeth Out comes straight out of Sesame Street. Stevie's Spanking gets boring very quickly.
The instrumentals are great, though: the Sinister Footwear #2 (where's 1?), the title track, various solos, and of course Marque-Son's Chicken.
This time around I noticed how Marque-Son's Chicken is reminiscent of Dupree's Paradise.

BBP - 13-12-2010 at 17:11

Cocaine Decisions occasionally reminds me of House For Sale by Lucifer/Margriet Eshuys. I knew I disliked it for a reason.

BBP - 13-12-2010 at 17:51

YCDTOSA vol 3
The third in a series of hoping I don't get too much concert piled up towards the end. Volume 3 has several attractions: Frank bursting out in laughter on Bobby Brown and Keep It Greasey, and hearing Frank trying to calm an Italian crowd. I still need to watch DRS, so I haven't yet seen the footage/

BBP - 14-12-2010 at 09:50

Francesco Zappa
Personal favourite track is #14.
This album is cute, harmless, nearly pointless, its material is simple... It's Frank's little mystery. So to answer the question "Who gets this one?" the answer is "I don't, but I like it anyways."

punknaynowned - 14-12-2010 at 12:48

Quote: Originally posted by BBP  
I still need to watch DRS, so I haven't yet seen the footage/


that footage is not on the DRS dvd though it makes sense it would be. Maybe some day. It's mostly what's his name, Mossimo singing Tengo Na Minchia and acting like he's snorting coke and playing with a rubber chicken, intercut with Frank and the people in the dubroom. The '74 stuff is better with the claymation stuff. I guess I don't really like that one.
Francesco though, that's great. After dinner, nap time.

[Edited on 14-12-10 by punknaynowned]

BBP - 14-12-2010 at 15:24

Shut Up & Play Your Guitar
Yowza!
Discovered some similarity between TreacherousCretins and the music to THIS.

Canard du Jour is amazing!!

BBP - 15-12-2010 at 09:46

YCDTOSA vol 4
is one of my favourites, since it has the gorgeous fivesome My Guitar/Willie the Pimp/Montana/Brown Moses/The Evil Prince. It has still better-sounding versions of Thing-Fish songs. Initially I wasn't too fond of all those R&B covers on disk 2, but now I've noticed they're all 12-bar-blueses, it's amusing me.
Note to sel"f: list all 12 bar blueses in Zappa's work.

BBP - 15-12-2010 at 10:42

Jazz From Hell
Zappa's Grammy-winner. Although the sounds are a little outdated on most of the tracks, Zappa proves himself a great composer. St Etienne is gorgeous, but we're fortunate that most of these songs are available in proper version elsewhere.

BBP - 15-12-2010 at 19:55

No more short single vinyl albums from now...
Broadway The Hard Way
Has many songs about the Reagan administration, an era I don't know much about. It's got several worse songs, such as Promiscuous and Any Kind Of Pain, but some good soloing and Sting at the second half of it.

Guitar (vinyl)
One I still need to have on CD. Although it doesn't have any highlights like Ship Ahoy, Canarsie or Canard Du Jour, Guitar is highly enjoyable, although I would have appreciated less Ship/Witch. When a man is tired of Ship he is tired of life.

BBP - 16-12-2010 at 10:24

On Guitar: Fulcanelli was an alchemist from the early 20ieth century, whose identity is disputed.

YCDTOSA vol 5
Because I had to cook for myself, I couldn't listen to it in full yesterday and had to finish the rest off today
The first disk is charming me a lot more than it did initially, I've come to like the blues tracks on them.

Disk 2 is about a very different band: the 82 band with Steve Vai, Tommy Mars, Ray White, Bobby Martin, Ed Mann, Scott Thunes, Chad Wackerman. It has many great performances, although I cannot appreciate City Of Tiny Lites. Long notes are a good performance trick, and granted, Ray White is a lot better at it than Les Claypool, but on a CD it just brings the music to a standstill.

BBP - 16-12-2010 at 12:25

The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life
(also dubbed Just Another Band From L.A. in moments of lapse of concentration of yours truly)

The prime attraction of TBBYNHIYL are covers: Purple Haze, Stairway To Heaven, Ring Of Fire, Bonanza, and for Americans, Bolero. The rest of the songs exist elsewhere. Which ones I prefer over the original?

None really. I get a little annoyed by the FXes like Dog Bark and Clap Hand. Doesn't mean it's a bad album, not in the least, but it is a bit of a pointless exercition to me. Making it all the more painful that it is the second most expensive record I am listening to during Zappadan, only CP3 cost more.

BBP - 16-12-2010 at 16:58

Ahead Of Their Time
A very pleasant live album with a funny play, and quite a few great tracks! My heart went out when FZ closed the concert early because "subways close early around here." Wow!

BBP - 16-12-2010 at 20:51

YCDTOSA vol 6
I listened to this one often back in the day, with many favourite songs on both disks. Although the nature of the songs on the first disk makes me wonder about the lyrics to Muffin Man. There's many songs I learnt the lyric meaning from in the past month or two, something like Father O'Blivion is a tune I knew every word to but I never tried to attach any meaning to it, until it dawned on me when I glanced over the Apostrophe lyrics last November.

I also just looked up some information on Bianca Thornton, whose powerhouse vocal on WUWIAGS is fantastic:
Quote:
In late 1976 she was invited by Frank Zappa to tour with him as a backing vocalist and pianist but this only lasted a month as Bianca felt uncomfortable singing some of his highly sexual lyrics.

http://www.stanleyandbianca.com/biolb.php

Huck_Phlem - 16-12-2010 at 20:53

Gotta love a woman who knows her Zappa!:forumsmiley277:

Huck_Phlem - 16-12-2010 at 20:57

Quote: Originally posted by BBP  

The instrumentals are great, though: the Sinister Footwear #2 (where's 1?)


On Sheik Yerbouti.

BBP - 17-12-2010 at 19:01

Ok so that's how I know my Zappa. :)

Playground Psychotics (having a slow day today because of the snow, and tomorrow because of snow and visiting a friend) is an album I've enjoyed a lot more now that I've seen 200 Motels. I also tremendously enjoy the Zanti Serenade.

What is that story about Divan? Is there really an FZ piece completely missing??

aquagoat - 17-12-2010 at 20:29

Where's Broadway the hard way? my first Zappa album?

polydigm - 18-12-2010 at 03:07

Quote: Originally posted by Huck_Phlem  
Quote: Originally posted by BBP  

The instrumentals are great, though: the Sinister Footwear #2 (where's 1?)
On Sheik Yerbouti.

There's no sinister footwear on Sheik Yerbouti, unless it goes by another name. There's no official release of #1 as far as I'm aware. I certainly can't find it on IINK.

BBP - 18-12-2010 at 11:12

Broadway The Hard Way is on page 2 here. I'm not a fan of the record, to be honest.

polydigm - 19-12-2010 at 05:12

Okay, so now I know that part of the Sinister Footwear II played on Them or Us had already appeared in Wild Love on Sheik Yerbouti, but, as I said above, there is no official release of Sinister Footwear I.

What I don't get is that IINK also says that Sinister Footwear II is quoted in Frogs With Dirty Little Lips. I've listened to it carefully and I can't see it.

aquagoat - 19-12-2010 at 10:08

Quote: Originally posted by BBP  
Broadway The Hard Way is on page 2 here. I'm not a fan of the record, to be honest.
well, I think I should buy me some glasses:shy:. Bthw is a bit special to me because I discovered Zappa with this album, but I agree with you, some of those tracks (Promiscuous, for example) are not so good.

BBP - 19-12-2010 at 14:48

Make A Jazz Noise Here.
The ska combo with all the brass unfortunately doesn't work too good on more emotional tracks like Black Napkins and T'Mershi Duween, but the happy sound makes most of the first disk sparkle.

I'm now playing Trout Mask Replica. Is it supposed to sound like a blizzard?

punknaynowned - 19-12-2010 at 15:28

fluff on the needle?
(forgive me, a Don kinda thing to say ... I'm guessing)
I spent a lot of time going through all the beefheart I could find, catching up with all I'd missed before.
favorites remain
safe as milk,
mirror man,
growfins disc 2,
bat chain puller,
the pompadour/clear spot sessions in four discs
Spotlight Kid sessions
some additional live tracks here and there

I really like the reformed Magic Band with John French singing and
Gary Lucas and the horn guys as Fast & Bulbous

but what I love the most is Don's word salad buffoonery and stuff like this where you can really hear the ranges of his voice and him on harmonica, with the overqualified Bill Harkleroad on guitar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXvqCwgVxT0

Huck_Phlem - 19-12-2010 at 22:48

There is no name for it but it's there. I forget. I think it's inside Wild Love or Yo Mama I have to listen again.

polydigm - 20-12-2010 at 03:50

Quote: Originally posted by Huck_Phlem  
There is no name for it but it's there. I forget. I think it's inside Wild Love or Yo Mama I have to listen again.

You skipped my other post where I acknowledge that Sinister Footwear 2 is in Wild Love on Sheik Yerbouti. It's about 5 posts above this one.

punknaynowned - 20-12-2010 at 10:39

Of course you know about this?
http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/bootlegs/orchestral_boots.htm...
though frank said he didn't like it, it's now part of Beat the Boots III I believe
also I remember at the old FAQ maybe as much as ten years ago, GZ said that they would look into a complete version of all the parts for release. But you could tell she wasn't holding her breath. I'm hoping the btb3 wasn't it.
The FM broadcast from KPFA 16jun84 is the best I've heard
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3878
and excerpts here on Serious Music
http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=18489

[Edited on 20-12-10 by punknaynowned]

Huck_Phlem - 21-12-2010 at 07:58

Yea I was listening to Wild Love today. Love that album. it's sounds great on my stereo with my new(ish) Nagaoka Cartridge.

BBP - 21-12-2010 at 11:14

With the unexpected passing of my aunt, I hope I can still squeeze in CP3 today (we no doubt have to visit her house again, and sift through it. It's totally gross.), but now I am listening to Yellow Shark.

BBP - 21-12-2010 at 22:08

Darn it! Lost a long post!
More on Yellow Shark and CP3 tomorrow. I just typed and lost stuff, and discovered there will be icy roads tomorrow.

Huck_Phlem - 22-12-2010 at 00:42

I saw a CP3 at a store used and didn't buy it because I didn't have much money and i have never seen another one! I have got to get it. Hell I haven't even heard it.

BBP - 22-12-2010 at 12:42

Yellow Shark
Recently, in De Volkskrant, a gorgeous article appeared which linked the BP oil spill to FZ's Outrage At Valdez. It was posted by yours truly and Zurkon Wax here: http://www.zappa.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8652&...
Quote:

Although Jean-Michel Cousteau used the music for his documentary of the same title about the environmental disaster, Outrage At Valdez doesn't sound at all like the sound track of a disaster movie. The slightly over 3 minutes long composition for strings, winds and percussion is a moving miniature, with suggestions of immeasurable depths (caused by drones on low brass and alpine horn), wrinkles of sunlight on the sea and graciously moving underwater vegetation, perfectly finished with a layer of alarming piano chords.
In spite of its size, it reminds of oceanic dimensions and shows an engagement you couldn't put a label on: Outrage at Valdez, at least.

Replayed it twice, but this author makes the piece sound a lot lighter than it is, with only the water reminding of the sea. (then again, piano and water is such a musical convention...) I can totally picture pompous Valdez petrol bosses attempting to squeeze out of having to pay for even the smallest amount of damage.

What makes Zappa so interesting to me as a composer, is he is able to convey so many more different moods, emotions than most other present-day composers: putting cheer, humour into music in an era where all music seemed to be only about making the listener feel like he's sitting on the head of a pin with his ankles in his neck while balancing an egg on a strain of spaghetti. Zappa is able to break with the tension in his music.

Civilization Phase 3
My Zappa trance was interrupted by a sister who wanted to know what she knew Caro Emerald's A Night Like This was from, and then I had issues with getting CD1 out of the player. But again I got to enjoy this masterpiece. It is so
colourful!

Huck: forget about all the plans you made for when the damage payment about your accident comes in: CP3 is a must!



Huck_Phlem - 23-12-2010 at 00:46

Well then I'll just have to send you a ticket and you can bring the CD with you! :D