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scallopino - 20-11-2006 at 09:08

At least it keeps the lower quality actors from being seen too much.

[Edited on 20-11-2006 by scallopino]

DED - 20-11-2006 at 16:26

Could be true, It was an example of positive thinking, but they are part of that selection of bad acting actors.

scallopino - 21-11-2006 at 14:55

:bald: oh well. Maybe the good actors are spending their time doing more worthwile things.

i'm running out of ideas here..

DED - 21-11-2006 at 20:12

Quote:
Originally posted by scallopino
:bald: oh well. Maybe the good actors are spending their time doing more worthwile things.

i'm running out of ideas here..

Wel that is not so dramatically. Looks what happens if you appear to be a good actor. Every producer/director wants good actors.
So prices will go up. So you take 0ne good actor that gives you an advantage in advertising your movie. Than budget runs low and you need more cheap (bad) actors. Low budget movie makers cant afford good actors and use the (bad) actors from the before mentioned movie, at least they are experienced. and so on and on. Nothing bad actually, it only make you not a fan of movies in your own language. In a strange or less familiar movie you don't notice everything.

BBP - 22-11-2006 at 12:11

And when you're a good actor you can ruin your career by acting in some crap movie (or joining Scientology) quite easily... and then try getting back on the rails.

Anyway we've recently bought Beauty And The Beast... why did it get an Oscar for the title song? :yawn:

scallopino - 24-11-2006 at 16:36

I just spent a few months rehearsing and performing with a theatre company who did Beauty and the Beast. I think they were the first people to do it in Australia or something.

Anyway, the Beast looked like Chewbacca.

scallopino - 24-11-2006 at 16:45

Quote:
Originally posted by BBP
And when you're a good actor you can ruin your career by acting in some crap movie (or joining Scientology) quite easily... and then try getting back on the rails.

Anyway we've recently bought Beauty And The Beast... why did it get an Oscar for the title song? :yawn:


WHAT'S WRONG WITH SCIENTOLOGY!


;-)

BBP - 24-11-2006 at 23:22

Quote:
Originally posted by scallopino
Quote:
Originally posted by BBP
And when you're a good actor you can ruin your career by acting in some crap movie (or joining Scientology) quite easily... and then try getting back on the rails.

Anyway we've recently bought Beauty And The Beast... why did it get an Oscar for the title song? :yawn:


WHAT'S WRONG WITH SCIENTOLOGY!


;-)


Ha!
Just today we were in a second-hand store and we found a scientology cassette with all music and lyrics by L. Ron Hubbard. I briefly considered buying it, but I found it too scary.

BBP - 24-11-2006 at 23:33

Quote:
Originally posted by scallopino
I just spent a few months rehearsing and performing with a theatre company who did Beauty and the Beast. I think they were the first people to do it in Australia or something.

Anyway, the Beast looked like Chewbacca.


Neato! Who were you? Chip?



Today I went to the cinema for the first time in almost 2 years, to Crusade in Jeans, after one of my favourite children's books. Nice, but the book is better. (Well, it's not really possible getting much better than that book...) Convincing acting, lovable characters and surprisingly cost-efficient. Unfortunately the script had some problems, since the author of the book, Thea Beckman, had some moral authority over the script. The first version was binned (the main charcter had turned from a history-loving Dutch boy into an American drug addict) by her. Unfortunately she never saw the definite version because she passed away, and I'm pretty sure she'd have picked out some poor dialogue and plot holes. Plus I don't like the character change: the intelligent, friendly history fanatic from the book has become a selfish soccer player.

If it's in cinema near you, look for it. Though it may not be called Crusade in Jeans, because Americans seem to reject the term crusade. Really! It's too loaded!
I can't stop thinking of replacement titles for Indiana Jones - The Last Crusade.

DED - 25-11-2006 at 13:41

Crusade in jeans is more likely than
Kruistocht in spijkerbroek

But that is far better than

Kruisvocht in spijkerbroek
Not only because of the smell. :grin:

Sorry you cannot translate the joke without destroying it
Wet crotch in jeans or something like that
You see not funny
but at least your crusade rhymes with lemonade
Bringing it almost to cockney
Lemonade in Jeans


[Edited on 25-11-2006 by DED]

BBP - 25-11-2006 at 14:49

:rolleyes:
Say Dad? Ever considered writing for Arie and Sylvester? Will and Grace? Or you could make the Terrance and Philip jokes in South Park.

scallopino - 25-11-2006 at 15:43

Quote:
Originally posted by BBP
Quote:
Originally posted by scallopino
I just spent a few months rehearsing and performing with a theatre company who did Beauty and the Beast. I think they were the first people to do it in Australia or something.

Anyway, the Beast looked like Chewbacca.


Neato! Who were you Chip?

Today I went to the cinema for the first time in almost 2 years, to Crusade in Jeans, after one of my favourite children's books. Nice, but the book is better. (Well, it's not really possible getting much better than that book...) Convincing acting, lovable characters and surprisingly cost-efficient. Unfortunately the script had some problems, since the author of the book, Thea Beckman, had some moral authority over the script. The first version was binned (the main charcter had turned from a history-loving Dutch boy into an American drug addict) by her. Unfortunately she never saw the definite version because she passed away, and I'm pretty sure she'd have picked out some poor dialogue and plot holes. Plus I don't like the character change: the intelligent, friendly history fanatic from the book has become a selfish soccer player.

If it's in cinema near you, look for it. Though it may not be called Crusade in Jeans, because Americans seem to reject the term crusade. Really! It's too loaded!
I can't stop thinking of replacement titles for Indiana Jones - The Last Crusade.


No, sorry. Nothing so exciting. But i did learn some of Chip's lines by the end..."Mama mama! You'll never guess what i saw! Never, not in thousand million years: a girl! In the castle!" Theatre people are weird if you ask me. All that prancing and dancing. It's much better down in the orchestra pit where you can't see the show.

I played drums, and also some percussion (on a roland octopad set up). I had to change patches about 3 times every song for timpani and glock parts. A little bit of a challenge at first but it was kind of fun. :drums:

I have had a look at a list of all the movies released in Australia up to April 5 next year and unfortunately Crusade in Jeans isn't among them, but that title seems to be the international english title.

I will read the book though and then report back.

scallopino - 25-11-2006 at 15:49

Quote:
Originally posted by BBP
Quote:
Originally posted by scallopino
Quote:
Originally posted by BBP
And when you're a good actor you can ruin your career by acting in some crap movie (or joining Scientology) quite easily... and then try getting back on the rails.

Anyway we've recently bought Beauty And The Beast... why did it get an Oscar for the title song? :yawn:


WHAT'S WRONG WITH SCIENTOLOGY!


;-)


Ha!
Just today we were in a second-hand store and we found a scientology cassette with all music and lyrics by L. Ron Hubbard. I briefly considered buying it, but I found it too scary.


maybe it'll say: "don't you be terrified, it's just a token of my extreme..." but possibly in the style of a William Shatner spoken word album.





[Edited on 25-11-2006 by scallopino]

scallopino - 25-11-2006 at 15:50

Quote:
Originally posted by DED
Crusade in jeans is more likely than
Kruistocht in spijkerbroek

But that is far better than

Kruisvocht in spijkerbroek
Not only because of the smell. :grin:

Sorry you cannot translate the joke without destroying it
Wet crotch in jeans or something like that
You see not funny
but at least your crusade rhymes with lemonade
Bringing it almost to cockney
Lemonade in Jeans


[Edited on 25-11-2006 by DED]


Wow. And you only changed one letter. what a great language you guys have over there.

BBP - 27-11-2006 at 17:25

Quote:
Originally posted by scallopino

Wow. And you only changed one letter. what a great language you guys have over there.


Great huh! I can't get tired of ridiculous Dutch proverbs myself, like "it's as slippery as an eel in a bucket of snot".:offtopic:

DED - 27-11-2006 at 18:36

It shines .. like a varnished booby in the moonlight

If something is not really matching we say
It is like a flag on a mudbarge or more populair but not official as a flag on a shitship.

I'm peticulair fond on switching letters in words in order to change the meaning. If you dial for instance a wrong telephone number it is usually to say I've dialed the wrong number. In Dutch you have a "verkeerd nummer gedraaid" When you change that into "verkeerde drummer genaaid" nobody will hear it when you say it fast and serious. However you just said that you have f.ck.d the wrong drummer.
Extremely funny it is, but BBP and ZAZ claims, that is daddyhumor. Baby pee doesn't laugh at such humor.
Another one of my favourites is not to say "calculate that" but i say "smell my ar.e" or in Dutch "ruikanmereet" instead of "rekenmaaruit". There is a disadvantage though. It is off course a limited game and when I use the jokes on my job, I have to switch every now and then from employer in order to stay funny. :crying:


:offtopic:

[Edited on 27-11-2006 by DED]

[Edited on 27-11-2006 by DED]

punknaynowned - 28-11-2006 at 01:28

I too am very fond of puns. My online name is a string of them as far as I'm concerned. But as usual, most people don't get them. meh. I work in a kitchen in a college town. food and it's preparation provides plenty of lowbrow punny humor. I guess I get it out at work and don't bring it online.:bouncing:
I agree with Laurie Anderson and think that Language is a virus -- and it's contagious:singer::P
of course, I think I am the funniest person I know. Others think I CAN be funny but that's where they seem to draw the line.
Sounds like I should learn dutch.

scallopino - 28-11-2006 at 02:28

Quote:
Originally posted by DED
It shines .. like a varnished booby in the moonlight

If something is not really matching we say
It is like a flag on a mudbarge or more populair but not official as a flag on a shitship.

I'm peticulair fond on switching letters in words in order to change the meaning. If you dial for instance a wrong telephone number it is usually to say I've dialed the wrong number. In Dutch you have a "verkeerd nummer gedraaid" When you change that into "verkeerde drummer genaaid" nobody will hear it when you say it fast and serious. However you just said that you have f.ck.d the wrong drummer.
Extremely funny it is, but BBP and ZAZ claims, that is daddyhumor. Baby pee doesn't laugh at such humor.
Another one of my favourites is not to say "calculate that" but i say "smell my ar.e" or in Dutch "ruikanmereet" instead of "rekenmaaruit". There is a disadvantage though. It is off course a limited game and when I use the jokes on my job, I have to switch every now and then from employer in order to stay funny. :crying:


:offtopic:

[Edited on 27-11-2006 by DED]

[Edited on 27-11-2006 by DED]


:lol: HAHAHHA!

It's just great that you can say in one word what would be a whole sentence in english.

aquagoat - 28-11-2006 at 09:26

Quote:
Originally posted by BBP
Quote:
Originally posted by scallopino

Wow. And you only changed one letter. what a great language you guys have over there.


Great huh! I can't get tired of ridiculous Dutch proverbs myself, like "it's as slippery as an eel in a bucket of snot".:offtopic:


I like that one, it made me laugh so much.:D

aquagoat - 28-11-2006 at 09:28

Quote:
Originally posted by DED

I'm peticulair fond on switching letters in words in order to change the meaning. If you dial for instance a wrong telephone number it is usually to say I've dialed the wrong number. In Dutch you have a "verkeerd nummer gedraaid" When you change that into "verkeerde drummer genaaid" nobody will hear it when you say it fast and serious. However you just said that you have f.ck.d the wrong drummer.



made me laugh too.:D

DED - 28-11-2006 at 09:59

Quote:
Originally posted by scallopino
Quote:
Originally posted by DED
It shines .. like a varnished booby in the moonlight

.....


:offtopic:

[Edited on 27-11-2006 by DED]

[Edited on 27-11-2006 by DED]


:lol: HAHAHHA!

It's just great that you can say in one word what would be a whole sentence in english.

It is not really one word in writing
than it is "reken maar uit"
When you speak you leave out the space or put the spaces elsewhere "re kenma ruit"
Same as in English where "what is up" is changed into "whassup"

scallopino - 29-11-2006 at 01:40

Ok, i see now. please kill me if i ever say "whassup".

DED - 29-11-2006 at 10:02

When I heard the late crocodilehunter speak.
It seems to me that Australian language in writing is also very much different from speaking. But maybe that depends on the crocodile.:freak:

[Edited on 29-11-2006 by DED]

BBP - 29-11-2006 at 18:04

:offtopic:

Something I typed into the PrawnSong forum a while ago...


{after somebody types Lekker lekker lekker!! }

Quote:

That could turn into an interesting conversation.

Easy Digestible Dutch Course:
Dutch to English:

lekker - yummy
vloerbedekking - carpet
bier - beer
tabak - tobacco
roken - smoke
koffie - coffee
chocolade - chocolate
pindakaas - peanut butter
stickie - joint
wiet - weed
tieten - boobies
lul - dick
kut - pussy, equivalent of fuck in usage

slim - smart
smart - agony
smaak - flavour/taste

liefde - love (officially Dutch most beautiful word)
goesting - taste (Flemish most beautiful word)
petazzie - Brabant local dish, type of hotpot
fielefaauwen - to annoy (dialect)

Useful phrases:

De automaat heeft mijn pasje ingeslikt - the machine ate my card
Je hebt grote ogen die niet kunnen jokken en lippen als rozen zo rood - you have big eyes that can't tell lies, and lips as red as roses
De antwoorden zijn altijd al aanwezig - The answers have always been present (Steve Vai, Passion and Warfare, 'Answers')
Kan ik je wat te drinken aanbieden? - Can I offer you a drink?

Sayings:
Wie een wijf huwt om het lijf, verliest het lijf en houdt het wijf
(he who marries a woman for the body, will lose the body and keep the wife)

Dat is zo glad als een paling in een emmer snot
(That is as slippery as an eel in a bucket of snut)

Iemand blijmaken met een dooie mus
(make someone happy with a dead sparrow)


{after somebody says Godverdomme}

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Aye, GVD is commonly used, but sadly, Anglification of our language has turned SHIT into the most commonly used curse in The Netherlands.

More loaded is geitenneuker (goat fucker). Theo van Gogh used that word in his columns to describe muslim terrorists. It got him killed.
Also common is cursing with diseases, especially in Haguian (The Hague dialect):
tyfus (typhus), kanker (cancer) cholera, tering (phthisis), syfillis, etcetera.

Haguian dialect gives a long list of interesting synonyms for dying:
een tuin op je buik groeien (grow a garden on your belly)
stoppen met roken (quit smoking)
aan de verkeerde kant van het gras liggen (lie on the wrong side of the grass)
een zandfabriek beginnen (start a sand factory)
Less proper:
de maden voeren (feed the maggots)
verhuizen (move (from one house to the other))


{after somebody says he's enjoying a "kopstoot" (drink)}

Quote:

Kopstoot means something different here (Eindhoven) than in Utrecht: down here, a kopstoot can mean:
-a painful thrust with a head
-the mysterious, childish act of taking a glass of Seven-Up, throwing it over your head, then move your head forward.

scallopino - 30-11-2006 at 08:46

:lol::lol::lol:

in what situation would you say: "make someone happy with a dead sparrow"? it seems that someone has been saying this to our cat Nanook. we are not happy, Nanook.

scallopino - 30-11-2006 at 08:56

Quote:
Originally posted by DED
When I heard the late crocodilehunter speak.
It seems to me that Australian language in writing is also very much different from speaking. But maybe that depends on the crocodile.:freak:

[Edited on 29-11-2006 by DED]


CRIKEY! DED reckons that our ocker language comes out of a bloody croc! GEEZ-LOUISE mate! Chroist, if we ever heard a croc talkin we would say to the cheeky bastard: "Shutcha neck, ya noisy bugger!"

It was really funny (funny as in strange) when Steve Irwin died. Everyone i knew thought he was a complete and utter dickhead and hated him when he was alive. He was the quintessential "tool". But as soon as he died everyone loved him. I was in a politics tutorial when i found out and the whole class was laughing about it for half an hour. Then it became really really sad.

BBP - 30-11-2006 at 09:35

Quote:
Originally posted by scallopino
:lol::lol::lol:

in what situation would you say: "make someone happy with a dead sparrow"? it seems that someone has been saying this to our cat Nanook. we are not happy, Nanook.


It's what Gail does: telling us the release of the Roxy DVD is imminent, then not releasing it.

The phrase was also used when the infamous domino-sparrow that was shot dead after invading the hall where they were setting up millions of domino stones, was given to a museum. They were genuinely happy with a dead sparrow.

DED - 30-11-2006 at 10:15

Quote:
Originally posted by scallopino
Quote:
Originally posted by DED
When I heard the late crocodilehunter speak.
It seems to me that Australian language in writing is also very much different from speaking. But maybe that depends on the crocodile.:freak:

[Edited on 29-11-2006 by DED]


CRIKEY! DED reckons that our ocker language comes out of a bloody croc! GEEZ-LOUISE mate! Chroist, if we ever heard a croc talkin we would say to the cheeky bastard: "Shutcha neck, ya noisy bugger!"

It was really funny (funny as in strange) when Steve Irwin died. Everyone i knew thought he was a complete and utter dickhead and hated him when he was alive. He was the quintessential "tool". But as soon as he died everyone loved him. I was in a politics tutorial when i found out and the whole class was laughing about it for half an hour. Then it became really really sad.


I had the same experience. When he was alive and on air, I hated the guy. His strange accent was funny bit his habit of toughing every animal was at least boring. Leave them alone.
But when he died, we are informed in a better way about his work and love for the wildlife.

punknaynowned - 30-11-2006 at 20:20

Hey bonny, would there be a good dutch - english pronunciation guide somewhere on the net. y'know, how vowels, dipthongs are pronounced. what a 'j' or 'g' or 'h' or 'c' or 'k' sounds like in different instances etc???
much appreciated! I'm already learning:bouncy:

DED - 1-12-2006 at 11:30

A good starting point on the internet is
click here for dutch classes
This site gives you an overview of the best sites to learn dutch as a second language for English spoken people.

punknaynowned - 1-12-2006 at 11:52

excellent!
thanx ded!!

DED - 13-12-2006 at 18:16

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Originally posted by punknaynowned
excellent!
thanx ded!!

Lukt het al een beetje?

DED - 13-12-2006 at 18:22

Saw two VCR movies recently.
One was Twister by Dutch Jan de Bont
Film was running for 5 minutes, then I knew what the rest of the story should look like. Boring

The other film was Mission Impossible. I liked the series. This tape will self destruct in five seconds.
The film was a different sort of candy
Maybe when I see the film 4 or 5 times the plot will be clear to me.
Now I'm totally confused. the murdered people are still alive, the living ones dead. The good guys were the bad guys and the bad guys were not so bad after all.
What a confusing epos.
Immediately I switched into the 3 dvd box BBPgave me, good old Laurel and Hardy.
And that's another fine mess you got me into.

scallopino - 16-12-2006 at 15:06

Tom Cruise is just a confusing human. it's not your fault. have you seen Minority Report? That's a good one by stefano spielbergo.

BBP - 26-12-2006 at 13:35

DR. STRANGELOVE... Fantastic! Brilliant plot!

We were forced to watch the Wicker Man with Nicholas Cage yesterday... that was not a movie I'd like to watch again.

scallopino - 27-12-2006 at 13:11

Oh yeah! Kubric and Peter Sellers...it had to be something special. Nicholas Cage isn't exactly someone who can cheer you up is he? :-)

DED - 27-12-2006 at 13:13

Quote:
Originally posted by BBP
DR. STRANGELOVE... Fantastic! Brilliant plot!

We were forced to watch the Wicker Man with Nicholas Cage yesterday... that was not a movie I'd like to watch again.

It was a fight to stay awake,can't remember now what the story was.
Dr. Strangelove, only seen the first half, sometimes I woke up because of the laughter from ZAZ and BBP. Maybe I missed something. Well Barry Landon is at the shop within 2 days.
And today there will be a movie on the telly from the odd parents.

BBP - 27-12-2006 at 16:51

Fairly Odd Parents you mean... I missed it! D'oh!

Did you read that interview with Candy Zappa where she says she would like to see Nicholas Cage starring as FZ in a movie about Franks life? FZ's too handsome to be played by NC!

BBP - 2-1-2007 at 18:01

Anyways, holidays is over, seen lotsa, lotsa movies... One Dutch movie channel finally showed the LOTR trilogy, last year they only showed Two Towers. Seen My Fair Lady, La Bamba, Spirited Away...
My Fair Lady is that one unique movie that stops me from feeling embarrassed about liking musicals.

DED - 2-1-2007 at 21:35

In Spain, in Spain

punknaynowned - 3-1-2007 at 01:15

My Fair Lady was one that everyone got to watch in the school auditorium in high school. I loved it. But didn't have friends to share that excitement with. Read the Shaw play Pygmalion and tucked that away for later when we did the musical last summer, well, two summers ago.
Spirited Away is a great movie too. One that's stuck with me in my memory

BBP - 7-1-2007 at 14:18

SA was entertaining... though the movements are not fluent and that can get me a little annoyed.

Just seen Barry Lyndon. Amazing film! Not too long at all!
I stayed awake all the time in spite of watching late and having got up at 4:30. And my father stayed awake all the time, which is very rare indeed.

punknaynowned - 8-1-2007 at 02:58

saw Barry Lyndon for the first time just over a month ago as a friend had it. watched it over a couple days, helps something like that soak in better I think :-P
Loved it. Never seen a Kubrick movie I couldn't find a reason to like.
This one not only did I enjoy his settings and such -- he did model his sets and the look of the whole movie after studying a great number of 18th century paintings!!! -- I liked the inclusion of different kinds of music for all the different places that the character wound up in . . . and what a reprehensible schmuck!! Can't like the guy but O'Neal did a surprisingly great job.
Also saw Lolita recently. Spartacus is and old fave of mine as are 2001 and Clockwork.

I like different directors for different things and movies are rarely that important to me. 12 Monkeys of Terry Gilliam has messed with my head for a long while now. but he's still far and away the best director I think. As good as Hitchcock but with bigger themes like Orson Welles, and surpasses Kubrick not with sleekness but with grit.:singer:

haven't seen the Grimm Bros. But The Adventures of Baron Munchausen is as funny as . . . Mel Brooks or the Marx bros, anything!!!

You all have seen so many movies I haven't tho . . .

I've also loved everything I've seen by the guy that did Spirited Away. Amazing!!!

I can't say I'm a David Lynch fan (just don't know most of what he's done) but Wild At Heart is a pretty great movie.

I think Putney Swope by Robert Downey is a great movie. check it out.
I also really liked Roger Rabbit. excellent!!

Fritz Lang of course, Metropolis.

all Fellini movies are tops.

I also learned a lot with Burnt By The Sun, a Russian movie from the last 15 years.
The Man With A Camera is a classic Russian silent that also gives a vivid portrait of late 1920's Russia. MUST SEE!

I love to watch silent movies. Even German expressionists. Das Boot is great. Bridge On The River Qwai. High Noon. There's even a Bing Crosby, Grace Kelly movie I love that I can't remember the name of!

BBP - 8-1-2007 at 12:21

I don't really like Fellini to be honest. I've only seen Amarcord, and that made me sleepy.

Silent movies rule! Ever seen The Robber's Symphony? It ran for 20 solid years in Dutch cinema.

I don't know many Russian movies, but one that really caught me was Lost in Siberia, something about an Englishman who is arrested for being a spy while he isn't and put for 10 years in a Siberian penal colony. A very creepy and disturbing film that was.

[Edited on 8-1-07 by BBP]

DED - 9-1-2007 at 07:19

In Italian movies I like the weddingparty scenes where
everybody .........everybody while father, loaded with alcohol, is speeching to nobody standing on the table with his trausers on his knee. Great, only the Italian language makes you so tired. That it can be that I was dreaming it.
:bouncing:

DED - 9-1-2007 at 07:21

Barry Lyndon was indeed great camerawork.
But the faces of my daughters when the little son was dying wins prices.
:P

BBP - 24-2-2007 at 16:57

Just seen Spartacus. Not Kubrick's best, too Kirky, but still very enjoyable.

punknaynowned - 29-3-2007 at 17:31

saw The Prestige with David bowie as Nikola Tesla. loved it!

DED - 29-3-2007 at 21:49

Fantasy 2000 was playing here.
I don't like it

BBP - 30-3-2007 at 10:54

Neither do I! And I could sit through Fantasia!
Just picture Disney, spinning in his grave...

BBP - 7-7-2007 at 20:26

Finally saw Le Fabuleux Destin d'Amelie Poulain. It's beautiful!

BBP - 10-8-2007 at 11:36

And now I can add Space Odyssey to my Kubrick collection. My only negative thoughts about it is the last section really made me feel nauseous.

DED - 2-9-2007 at 22:00

I saw Blackbook. Normally I'm not so fond of war movies. But since one of my daughters live in the same building as were the props are stored, I was a little curious, Should I recognize the things I saw in store. The answer is yes.
The movie, who bothers. It is a pure verhoeven movie., so don't be suprised if you see some pubic hair.

BBP - 1-10-2007 at 08:24

You don't like war movies either then?

You're in bad luck when you're Dutch and don't like war movies. Around 50% of the Dutch films is about WW2. :yawn:

DED - 18-11-2007 at 17:50

Blonde Dolly

It is a dutch story about a prostitute in the mid of the last century. She was murdered in 1959 and the murderer is never found. She was not only a prostitute but had here contacts in the political scene.

One day I was visiting the graveyard for a visit to our family grave. At the entrance there was a new computer. If you knew a namen the only thing yoy had to do was typing in his/hers name and a plan of the graveyard was printed whit the shortest route. Off course I tried it and found out that on the back side of the plan famous people and places on the graveyard were marked. One of them was from the famous Blonde Dolly.

I walked to her stone and found out that my visit was on the day that she died. She also had the same birthday as my mother. Since then I want to know who killed her and I wanted to see the movie. But that was harly available.
But now I have one.

punknaynowned - 19-11-2007 at 10:59

I remember this story the first time you told it.
did you watch the movie yet?

DED - 19-11-2007 at 11:50

O yeah, I told it before :shocked: I'm getting old.

no I haven't seen it yet. need 2 hours and I cannot find so much sparetime in one block.

(But I've seen the movie years ago. It is not a historic document. Lot of facts are misused or not used. )

punknaynowned - 20-11-2007 at 05:36

I want to shoot movies of Gothic castles, monasteries, abbeys and cathedrals: with and without roofs, with and without windows, with and without inhabitants or visitors, all over Europe. For fun. Well, it'd be nice if somebody paid me to do it :bouncing:

DED - 20-11-2007 at 11:40

A little fundraising here ??
You have to go to France (Bretagne) at the trail of DDay
In England
In Holland by my knowledge there is only one church without a roof. that one is in Bolsward
Saskia or Zazkia the sister Of BBP has been to England and has some nice pictures.
Monasteries in use are quite common in Belgium (Due to the trappist beer)
Also in Greece There are some monastery ruins from the crusaders
In Eindhoven you have the remains of an old Monastery (but it is only one wall)


Traveling in Europe including meals, entrances etc. Will cost aprox. 150 Euro's a day (200$)
4 countries including tavel. Think of a budget of 8000$ upto 10000$

[Edited on 20-11-2007 by DED]

DED - 1-12-2007 at 12:48

Quote:
Originally posted by punknaynowned
I want to shoot movies of Gothic castles, monasteries, abbeys and cathedrals: with and without roofs, with and without windows, with and without inhabitants or visitors, all over Europe. For fun. Well, it'd be nice if somebody paid me to do it :bouncing:


For a start you can use the travels of others to orientate for free. As I may advise to you, please visit this wonderful website.
Click, here This is a link to the world heritage

Very special is the Cathedrale of d''Amiens (Aquagoat is living overthere) and Mechelen in Belgium.
It is also possible to visit the pyramids and the borobodur and of course Ground zero.
All in astonishing 360 degree picture steered by mouse and possibilities to rotate and zoom. (Do'nt do that on the floor of Amiens it will make you dizzy)
You also can visit the Netherlands Special is the Beemsterpolder or the defence line around Amsterdam.
WARNING
To explore this site can cost you hours, It is so beautiful.

punknaynowned - 2-12-2007 at 15:43

I do like these things.
haven't seen one in over ten years
thanx!!

BBP - 12-2-2008 at 22:57

Quote:
Originally posted by Gojira1975
THAT remake is NOT Godzilla.....What an abomination.....Dont even get me started BB!!!


Well... suppose Gojira isn't going to read it anytime, but wanted to post this site:
http://www.rinkworks.com/movieaminute/

This site holds a large number of ultra-short summaries of your favourite and not-s-favourite movies. This was done to the 1998 Godzilla movie:

Quote:

Matthew Broderick:
I'm in charge of sympathizing with Godzilla and being a geek. Let's kill it and act all sad.

Jean Reno:
First let us stare dumbly at it until it is too late to run.

Matthew Broderick
Many times.

Jean Reno:
Yes.


Tonight some TV history is made

DED - 23-2-2008 at 10:11

BNN wil do it again. After the famous kidney show.
Now they are airing "deep throat" tonight before the movie there is a discussion and before that a special around the theme by "spuiten en slikken".

BBP - 23-2-2008 at 12:07

Now: will we watch it? (drum fill)...

DED - 23-2-2008 at 16:32

I will tape it, viewing is another story.
Maybe after the stories the day after.
(Maybe publish it here on goos tube :P)

punknaynowned - 6-3-2008 at 20:42

"Deep Throat" on national tv with a before-and-after discussion?

they sure don't do that in Kansas ;-)\

scallopino - 7-3-2008 at 11:04

That's amazing. Simply amazing. What kind of ads did they show during the movie?

BBP - 7-3-2008 at 12:06

During? Nothing of course. Dutch government TV will not show ads during shows.
Not sure what they showed between the programmes... of course we have it on tape.

scallopino - 8-3-2008 at 15:42

That's amazing. I can't watch movies on tv because of the ads. Dutch television sounds like the best in the world; it's so liberal and without ads. An amazing combination. Is this free to air tv we're talking about?

BBP - 8-3-2008 at 15:44

YES!
Oh wait. No. They stopped "airing" the channels so you can't receive TV with antennae anymore. You have to have cable or digital TV.

DED - 8-3-2008 at 21:57

It is sort of free. The lowest fee you have to pay for the minimum package of stations is almost the same as having a own antenna. Don't think we are free of ads. On public stations ads comes in blocks of 5 minutes between the programs. During the program there is no stop for ads. On commercial stations they do have commercials in between. Depending on the popularity of the show a stop can take 7 or 8 minutes. Most people have a zap moment or a sanitarial stop. A movie can be stopped to many times. But there fore they devide movies in two parts with a news show in between. Thats very irritating. On the other hand seeing a movie without a break is a long time.
Commercials like the in the US we do not have, (many breaks with one commercial) fortunately.
We do know what is is because in the late sixties we had a commercial pirate station stationed in the Nortsea in international waters. At that time no commercials were allowed. They had commercials during the program and some commercials were planned amazingly in the film where you didn't realize you was looking to a commercial upto the final message. Dutch navy made an end to the station. The name of the station was TV Noordzee.

BBP - 8-3-2008 at 23:04

Just another example of how free Dutch TV is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsMULA9IALc

DED - 9-3-2008 at 00:49

It is normally a weird show as it is. But in this scene this "vega streaker"show up uninvited in the live show, while the host Paul was having a telephone conversation with a 6 year old child. Then at some moment Paul says that a streaker should be totally naked and ripped off his string. The guy tried to go to the police but Finally the station and the Vega streaker agreed with a verdict of a know TV judge in Holland. He said that in a controversial show and knowing the presenter you could have known that something like that could happen.
This is even more the case when he showed up univited.

scallopino - 9-3-2008 at 01:20

Quote:
Originally posted by BBP
YES!
Oh wait. No. They stopped "airing" the channels so you can't receive TV with antennae anymore. You have to have cable or digital TV.


Maybe five or six years ago Australian tv said that they were going to phaze out analogue television by about 2005. They haven't done that. Free to air digital tv has been broadcasting for about five years and every channel has their digital channel, but most people I know just watch the regular analogue tv.

I don't usually watch the digital channels, but I think they have the same amount of ads.

Maybe Polydigm can comment better on the situation here in a Australia.

BBP - 9-3-2008 at 12:03

Our digital TV has the most ridiculous channels... we have one extra channel, and every month they show a new one. Fashion Channel, Sail Channel, American Sports, Eurosport 2... full-time detective channel...

DED - 9-3-2008 at 23:35

Sci-fi and Boomerang and so on are best nice
But it is hard to zap when you have to wait a few seconds for another channel.

polydigm - 10-3-2008 at 07:27

Quote:
Originally posted by scallopino
Quote:
Originally posted by BBP
YES!
Oh wait. No. They stopped "airing" the channels so you can't receive TV with antennae anymore. You have to have cable or digital TV.


Maybe five or six years ago Australian tv said that they were going to phaze out analogue television by about 2005. They haven't done that. Free to air digital tv has been broadcasting for about five years and every channel has their digital channel, but most people I know just watch the regular analogue tv.

I don't usually watch the digital channels, but I think they have the same amount of ads.

Maybe Polydigm can comment better on the situation here in a Australia.


We have Foxtel, which is getting really expensive. We also have a DVD recorder which has a built in digital tuner so we get to watch the free to air digital channels, which have just as many ads, but you get a much better picture in widescreen. With the DVD recorder I mostly record what I want to watch because you can start watching while it's still recording, so for instance I watch the 8:30PM show starting at 8:50 and then just fast forward over the ads.

BTW BBP, you still need an aerial to watch digital tv.

BBP - 10-3-2008 at 08:23

Yeah I know that... it emits a different signal though, with the old antennae of lore that Zo Is Het Toevallig Ook Nog Eens Een Keer made fun of... and that Donald Duck often repairs with disastrous consequences...

punknaynowned - 10-3-2008 at 13:28

Quote:
Originally posted by polydigm

BTW BBP, you still need an aerial to watch digital tv.


I may have no idea what you folks are talkin about:P
but here in mostly urban/semi urban centers of Kansas a digital cable line piggybacks with the phone line and in the last ten yeasrs most homes have been connected. So all you have to do is plug it in and purchase the service.with a downpayment and a monthly fee/
Now the lines all converge at the cable company which offers different rates of digital tv, a collection of nationally syndicated broadcast networks and the local stations as well as different rates for internet connections.
Same company provides tv, internet, and our local newspaper.
Strange it may seem, a monopoly of media here . . .
but there doesn't seem to be anything we can't get or don't hear about. Of course, we wouldn't know if we couldn't find out about something . . .
and if the bank of satellites went out, in a single stroke we'd be out of the link -- not a happy scenario, come to think of it.

BBP - 15-3-2008 at 09:23

I now have a new guilty pleasure, the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Tim Curry is great!
(he also plays butler Wadsworth in another favorite movie of mine, Clue.)


zombie1210 - 7-8-2008 at 01:33

Bubba Ho-Tep

Hellboy 2

The Train

The Searchers

Brazil (directors cut)

Unforgiven

Platoon

Lawrence of Arabia

zombie1210 - 7-8-2008 at 01:36

Quote:
Originally posted by BBP
I now have a new guilty pleasure, the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Tim Curry is great!
(he also plays butler Wadsworth in another favorite movie of mine, Clue.)



Tim is great. I'll watch anything he's in. Even a small part.

BBP - 7-8-2008 at 08:30

I have the DVD now, played it a sick amount of times. It has a "participation timer" which shows in the subtitle track when to misbehave (= putting newspaper over your head, throwing toast, throwing cards etc), a "midnight viewing" soundtrack with the audience yelling, and some interesting footage of a midnight viewing.

Curry is a brilliant actor! I barely recognized him, even though I'd seen Clue several times.

BBP - 12-8-2008 at 17:04

I've missed the obvious joke:
Annie! You like Annie? And Home Alone 2?

(hoping his Duckman episodes are on-line...)

BBP - 24-10-2008 at 09:50


Isaac - 2-11-2008 at 08:12

Alphaville
Touch of Evil
Mean Streets
Heavy Traffic
Lost Highway
200 Motels


And just about every other movie made by the directors of the above.

aquagoat - 2-11-2008 at 20:30


BBP - 2-11-2008 at 21:07


BBP - 6-11-2008 at 12:27


aquagoat - 6-11-2008 at 12:43

no, Jeunet always works with Pinon, I don't know a movie without him, he's even in Alien IV.

BBP - 6-11-2008 at 12:50


scallopino - 31-12-2008 at 03:18

Some movies I've watched for the first time recently and really liked are:

One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
Alien
Mystery Train (by Jim Jarmusch)
Down By Law (also Jim Jarmusch)
Batman Returns (one of the good ones...Tim Burton)
Amelie

BBP - 31-12-2008 at 09:09


punknaynowned - 31-12-2008 at 10:08

saw Darjeeling Limited some 13 months ago.
liked it. Not a fan of Wes Anderson, but liked this one.
also got the dvd for the Buena Vista Social Club.
If you haven't seen this yet, do so.
Music is all the best and the stories are fascinating.
Remembered it was great when I saw it in the theater, 10-12 years ago.
But to watch it again now, brings so much home again.
. . .

scallopino - 1-1-2009 at 07:15


BBP - 1-1-2009 at 20:38

Lolita was a bestseller! Although over 20 editors rejected the manuscript. I fear though, that its popularity is more caused by the highly descriptive love scenes than its literary quality.

I'm reading the book now actually, it has a lot of metaphors and simili.

punknaynowned - 2-1-2009 at 02:47

Imagine James Mason and the girl in that singing a duet of Pick Me I'm Clean. In character.
That's pretty much what I got out of the book. HH is messed up with all the pushing and prodding of western ads and expectations and junk and just wants something that isn't tainted with all that stuff, or so he thinks. He thinks he's so smart and yet doesn't get that it's all so much simpler.
The girl in that may in fact be 'tainted', but as a product of that stuff, not a knowing participant. Kubrick's depiction of her is smart, she learns and grows. H doesn't much at all.
I think it's popularity came from the sensational nature of the age difference.

scallopino - 2-1-2009 at 04:27

Insightful words Mr Punk. And Buena Vista Social Club is riveting viewing. I only discovered a few months ago that Ry Cooder was part of an early incarnation of the Magic Band. That's wayyy cool.

punknaynowned - 2-1-2009 at 05:56

It just occurred that The Graduate is a similar story with switched gender roles

scallopino - 3-1-2009 at 09:13

Similar to Lolita? I never noticed that. You're right. The feel is very different though. I think the difference in age between Benjamin in the Graduate and Lolita makes a big difference. Benjamin is old enough to know exactly what's going on and Lolita isn't. But in some ways the male characters in both movies are very isolated. Ben is in like a post-collage limbo and Humbert has a mid-life crisis and is pretty alone. In Lolita though Lolita isn't really isolated like Ben in the Graduate...she's more poached out of a normal high school life by Humbert. In the Graduate Benjamin is sort of looking for something different.
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