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BBP - 10-10-2014 at 11:52

(thinks back of the Simpsons)

The basis of this lane seems to be simple geometry...

"I can't believe it. You've actually found a practical use for geometry."

You know what, Poly, I believe you're right! :bald:

polydigm - 11-10-2014 at 07:54

A proper study of joint movement, which does involve some geometry, requires first or second year university physics because it also involves the study of curvilinear and rotational equilibrium including a study of the concepts of force and torque.

BBP - 11-10-2014 at 12:52

See? There's the problem: we have all Dutch words for that. Thank you Simon!

BBP - 13-10-2014 at 19:10

Waved bye to my sister who stayed with us for a week.

polydigm - 14-10-2014 at 11:15

I'm just trying to get my motor running again after a moody hiatus following a viral attack. The wind is out of my sails, I'm sure it'll return again soon enough.

Do you miss your sister when she's not around? Does she live far away?

BBP - 14-10-2014 at 15:29

Amsterdam is about an hour and a half by train, so getting there when you don't have a car costs a bundle. Besides that, even with a car, it'll cost you a bundle because you have to pay a parking fee outside her door. She has a single room on the 4rd floor (5th for Americans) and there's no lift - we had to move her into that apartment twice and out of there once, that's a nightmare with all her books. My sister's very sweet but her living space is rather cramped and lives in a miserable neighborhood - a couple of years ago a man was stabbed to death over a parking space below her balcony on her birthday, and once a guy was shot dead around the corner behind the steering wheel of his car: it was in the middle of the night and the sound effects were considerate. It took an hour for the police to arrive, but they couldn't move the corpse and they'd had to wait another hour for the forensics - by then, an angry neighbour had pulled out the car battery.
if you go to visit her, better do something in town than actually stay at her place.

polydigm - 15-10-2014 at 01:54

That's a grim picture. Is Amsterdam really that bad, or were they just isolated incidents? A long time ago when I lived in North Carlton in Melbourne, there was a shooting just down the road. The chalk outline of the body in the road was quite creepy. The cops were quite jumpy for a while. Once, my brother and I were in a hurry to go some where and as we ran out the front door a bunch of cops jumped us and threw us in their car and hassled us until they finally realised we actually lived there.

BBP - 15-10-2014 at 12:53

Amsterdam is the hubbub of everything and is a major player in drugs criminality. It depends on where you go of course, there are a lot of nice places, but my sister doesn't live in one.

punknaynowned - 18-10-2014 at 23:00

Hope she knows hope to stay safe!

but wait!
Primus is on NPR for their new record doing the songs from Willy Wonka?

WOW!
http://www.npr.org/2014/10/18/356890014/primus-music-makers-...
WOW!

BBP - 19-10-2014 at 13:27

Whoo! Will check out!

Went to my pal yesterday for his birthday, baked some strawberry muffins for him. He's given up ganga and alcohol, but he's smoking all the more for it. Hm.
He took me to the botanical gardens where he works, was quite beautiful.
Discovered I didn't pay for my return trip. Oops.:shy:

BBP - 20-10-2014 at 20:14

Not much news here...

BBP - 23-10-2014 at 13:00

Am having a hard time mailing with my blind friend - her internet browser is out of date and updated versions don't support her refreshable braille display. (For the record, that's a total space age apparatus that she clicks under her laptop and that converts text on the computer into braille so that she can read it.)

BBP - 26-10-2014 at 20:47

Baked bokkenpootjes.

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BBP - 28-10-2014 at 12:43

http://www.nordfriesland.de/Kultur-Bildung/Kulturarbeit-des-... As to not lose this link.

polydigm - 28-10-2014 at 15:08

In the pressure cooker at the moment. Three big exams coming up and a major practical report due through mid November. Yikes.

aquagoat - 28-10-2014 at 17:52

Quote: Originally posted by BBP  
Baked bokkenpootjes.
What is this made of?

BBP - 28-10-2014 at 22:30

Laconic version: it's sugar that's been glued to sugar with sugar, then dipped in sugar.
Long version: egg whites, sugar, almonds, butter and chocolate.

Good luck Poly!

aquagoat - 29-10-2014 at 18:25

huum sugar, it seems good.

BBP - 29-10-2014 at 22:59

You'll need:
for the biscuits:
3 egg whites
180 grams of sugar
chipped almonds

for the coating:
pure chocolate

for the cream:
butter
powdered sugar
coffee extract or cocoa
How much depends on the size you decide to make your bokkenpootjes. But the standard recipe is 2 parts butter for 1 part powdered sugar, and a teaspoon of cocoa. This time around I had to use regular butter cream as I'd made a mistake.

-Remove baking tin from the oven and preheat the oven to 120 degrees Celsius. Put waxed paper on the tin.
-Beat the egg whites all the way stiff and mix in the sugar.
-Use a pastry bag to spray the whites in the chosen shape of your bokkenpootjes. Traditionally that'd be more or less rectangular, 2 by 6 cm. Or you could make rosettas.
-Cover the biscuits royally with almond chips.
-Bake the whites for an hour to 90 minutes, depending on the size of the biscuits. There's a nice margin of error.
-Remove them from the oven and pick them off the paper. Let them cool.

-Prepare the cream: mix the butter with the sugar and heat it slightly.
-Stick the biscuits to each other, flat side to flat side. Be careful: meringues are fragile. Let them set.

-Melt the chocolate. Dip the ends of the biscuits in, put them on waxed paper and let them cool.

aquagoat - 30-10-2014 at 18:40

Thank you for the recipe, I'll have to try that, it seems good.

BBP - 30-10-2014 at 22:12

You're welcome!

I'm giving my room a massive cleaning. Normally that's for springtime but it was really necessary. Am finding lots of stuff that was presumed missing (I'm now learning Go since I found my book about the noble board game). And I get the sniffles.

BBP - 2-11-2014 at 16:13

Went to the book fair and came home with a contract to help break down the fair.

BBP - 3-11-2014 at 16:33

Helped at the book fair yesterday, loading unsold books into crates... back hurts...

BBP - 6-11-2014 at 14:56

Room is clear and I filled it up again with a jigsaw puzzle.

BBP - 8-11-2014 at 16:15

Delivered the door-to-door mags today and taught Dad how to fold a paper plane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjdGLwZ1a8

aquagoat - 9-11-2014 at 07:28

Yeah, paper planes. :bouncy:

polydigm - 11-11-2014 at 00:45

One exam down - not a complete disaster - two to go.

BBP - 11-11-2014 at 12:54

Hey Poly! Good to hear!

I finished my jigsaw and am working on reading 1984.

BBP - 13-11-2014 at 23:27

Not much happening here... not feeling too good...

punknaynowned - 15-11-2014 at 17:26

Bonny are you okay? If you don't want to talk about it I understand.
But I saw what you wrote after dove the other day and I started wondering about you.
I know you think your a clutz and lose your balance sometimes.
Could the two be related ? You know how the stuff in our ears is like the gyroscope for our balance?
And if that gets out of whack - any way: sinuses, barometric pressure - simple motion thru space can be disorienting.

Also I know that changes in seasons can mess me up. Mostly change in pressure as well as weather...

I don't have any answers but do be sure to get checked out, ok?

BBP - 15-11-2014 at 18:07

Actually I'm not feeling 100% because of my POM. And my back hurts from paper delivery. I seem to be missing out on the GLOW festival entirely - waited for my sister to come over, she said she would but cancelled out at the last moment, and now it's the last day and I'm exhausted.

Also got me a nasty bleeding scratch on my hand. This was while I was loading my bicycle and I have no idea how it happened - it had to be patched up well though, or else I'd get infected, or at the very least blood all over the papers.

punknaynowned - 15-11-2014 at 23:14

ok. Sounds like it'll pass. OK.
Sad you miss this years glowfest.
Weather looks poor there: fog today, rain tomorrow...

it's cloudy here, got a tiny bit of flurries,
enough to notice snowdust on the car. No more.

BBP - 16-11-2014 at 15:53


polydigm - 20-11-2014 at 09:00

Last exam over. Again, like the first, not a complete disaster. The second one, Monday this week was pretty good. Anyway, you live with this tight band around your head for the best part of nine months and then all of a sudden nothing. More than three months to go now before the next round. I have to try and maintain some kind of balance.

BBP - 20-11-2014 at 10:45

Nice... Enjoy your break!

polydigm - 21-11-2014 at 06:27

How did 1984 go?

BBP - 21-11-2014 at 09:43

He's dead. Why?

Great book,enjoyed it a lot.

polydigm - 22-11-2014 at 11:16

I don't understand the question. You said you were reading 1984 on 11 Nov and I was just asking how it went?

BBP - 22-11-2014 at 15:31

Yah that's how the book goes. It went well, I understand the work and enjoyed it. Not sure what you mean by "how did it go?", that's what you ask to a person who's just had his first driving lesson, "how did it go, did you knock over anything or wreck the car?". Is that an Australian-type phrase?

punknaynowned - 23-11-2014 at 09:53

" Is that an Australian-type phrase? "

No, we use it here too.

Anymore, 'go' doesn't necessarily mean motion, travel, direction, process or operation. It means essentially, how did you like it.

What I find humorous is your answer, 'He's dead'. Which may be what confused Geoff. It's a literal response! Since a book is a product of an author and a book doesn't technically go anywhere, unless someone takes it there... then, the only thing that miht have gone anywhere is the author... and we all know he is dead... like Bela Lugosi...

what you are getting at... :)... is the very subtle, slippery gaps between languages .. just the sort of thing that tickles me ... or, more literally, makes the corners of my mouth turn up.

Reminds me of that Marxist joke: "Use the car, but make sure on the way to get gas. And if you can't find that, get ethyl. And if you can't find Ethel, get Mabel." -Groucho

BBP - 23-11-2014 at 12:44

Actually I was referring to the lead character of the book, analogous to "how did that joke go?" I answered "How did 1984 go?" with "He's dead". Hope I didn't spoil it for you...

punknaynowned - 23-11-2014 at 21:35

Or that!
1984 must have been one of those books that informed me how the world was or could be.
I read it when I was 15, so still very impressionable. A long time ago.
So I sit here thinking about the kind of person it may have helped mold me to be.
Today I feel isolated, knowing enough of history to see what's wrong
but so far from everything that anyone looks at or pays attention to make much difference.
So I have been watching it all fall apart and feel helpless to do much about it.

Yesterday, there was an online book salon that was hosting the author of a new book.
People log on and for a couplehours can chat with the author.
This author was James Risen who broke the story in 2005 for the New York Times
how the US gov was funneling online user data from the backdoor of AT&T.
When I got back online, I wrote a story, in haiku, even put it on the zappa forum
and other places hoping somebody who could do something might figure it out.
Years before Snowden, Risen went through hell to get that info out.
He is still hounded, subpoenaed to this day and still doesn't know how it will turn out.
Along with several others, we all got to ask questions and he answered well.
So, 1984 still causes ripples.

polydigm - 24-11-2014 at 03:06

"How did it go?" is a fairly ordinary everyday English phrase where the questioner is asking how a particular experience was for the questioned. Any type of experience. Reading, running, sleeping, swimming, any verb/experience you like. It's not a particularly Australian phrase.

Example:

Bonny: I started reading 1984.
... a fortnight passes by ...
Geoff: How did 1984 go?
Bonny: I got bored with it half way through and fed it to my dog.

BBP - 24-11-2014 at 10:40

Well, this is what got me to read it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzPiW8FtvGQ

polydigm - 24-11-2014 at 14:15

I just got sucked in and watched that whole episode. I don't watch the show often but I always enjoy it when I do. It's so long ago that I tried reading 1984 that I can't remember whether I finished it or not. The other common one at school at the time was Brave New World and I can't remember if I finished that either.

BBP - 24-11-2014 at 15:48

I did read that one and watched the 1984 film at school. I'd bought the book some time ago and read the first page, with the intention to continue but lacking the energy - English is, after all, my second language and, although at school they were clever enough to teach sayings and idioms (reading French is much more difficult partly because of this), there's still an enormous gap when it comes to legal terms, jargon, technical terms that aren't IT etc.

My father was reading a book and stumbled on the phrase"pig iron" on the first page. I know that a pig is a mammal and iron is the chemical element Fe, but what is pig iron? (we looked it up now, no need to tell us it's ruw ijzer)
So, dictionary doesn't help (even the best ones have their limits) - it's off to Wikipedia. And then you're on the WWW already so you might as well check your e-mail and your farmville and before you know it it's midnight again. I'm not as susceptible to it, but still to a degree: Ulysses by James Joyce frequently uses "kip", not in the sense of sleep but with another meaning attached to it. It's distracting because "kip" is the Dutch word for chicken, and if you don't know the definition of kip all you can think of are chickens when you read that word.

BBP - 26-11-2014 at 23:36

Came down with a nasty cold, got a temperature.

BBP - 2-12-2014 at 13:07

Woke up to find I've won a prize with a crossword puzzle. It's a book with 100 iconic Dutch press photos.

polydigm - 3-12-2014 at 08:40

Hope your cold is better. I got good marks for all my courses and we're all just going out to celebrate. Finally I can relax for a little while.

BBP - 4-12-2014 at 17:25

Better enough for me to hit the town. I got a free roll of peppermint when I tried-tested spinach and garlic creamcheese.

Speaking of Creamcheese, Zappadan has started and the topic is rolling!

BBP - 10-12-2014 at 23:01

Tried to solve the christmas puzzle of the Dutch CIA and now I have a headache.

BBP - 11-12-2014 at 12:53

Tried my hand at solving it again and found two more puzzles. Out of 14.

BBP - 14-12-2014 at 15:04

I'm now at 11 out of 43 of the ciphers. You're allowed to seek help (but for the sake of sportivity don't use puzzle forums or work in teams of more than 4 people) but I can't think of anyone who could help.

polydigm - 19-12-2014 at 21:06

We arrived in Amsterdam yesterday morning to be greeted by people handing out flyers to warn people of some dangerous cocaine that had already killed three people. Welcome to Amsterdam!! Anyway, my wife and I ended up having a very enjoyable day there, all the way down to the smallest house in Amsterdam, which is the width of the front door. Our main activity was a visit to the Van Gogh Museum. It was very interesting to finally see all those originals painted by my favourite painter.

BBP - 19-12-2014 at 22:18

You're in Amsterdam? Great!
(Actually it's not cocaine: it's white heroin, but if you're like me you'll bring that flyer as an oddball souvenir)

BBP - 22-12-2014 at 22:05

Cal's thinking of closing down Unmod... and I must say the lack of activity is not exactly making me feel positive about the Goose either.

punknaynowned - 23-12-2014 at 08:29

Sorry I've not been around since they shut the cable off at the house.
It's a long sad story I don't want to retell tonight.
Currently at the the cafe downtown.
Saw a bunch of people I used to see regularly.
That's been nice.

It looks like it may be awhile before I get things turned back on again.
I will have to work a bunch and for awhile to get back to something that resembles 'normal' again...
Wish I had better news or at least something mildly interesting.

Hoping next year is better!

Peace and good wishes for all!!

BBP - 23-12-2014 at 11:28

Sorry to hear about your predicament, Punky... wishing you all the best!

BBP - 23-12-2014 at 17:25

Clipped my father's toenails today. It's even worse than it sounds. Grody to the max, I'm sure.

polydigm - 26-12-2014 at 22:30

Hey Ned, all the best.

Bonny, I did keep that flyer.

The problem was that the dealers involved were selling it as cocaine and the people buying it didn't realise what they were consuming.

We were only in Amsterdam for a day. Next time we'll stay longer.

Don't shut down down the Goose. This place is an oasis.

BBP - 27-12-2014 at 00:28

Yeah, it's a real bizarre case since white heroin is much more expensive than cocaine, so they think it's a serial killer.

BBP - 27-12-2014 at 12:15

Snowing here... another kind of white powder.Wish I didn't have to deliver junk mail now. Normally I have the Sunday paper as well, but it's not appearing today, so it's just junk that gets thrown away.

polydigm - 28-12-2014 at 11:00

Currently just having a fairly normal time for this time of year catching up with family and friends in England.

BBP - 28-12-2014 at 20:29

Sister wanted to take a picture of the snow, took one step outside and slipped. Bruised her ankle.

BBP - 29-12-2014 at 18:28

Walked for two hours to and from the seond-hand store. Nice day out.

BBP - 30-12-2014 at 12:31

Got hooked to Dir en grey's Chain Repulsion, only to find they just removed the video. Gunk.

polydigm - 30-12-2014 at 17:56

Off to Rome tomorrow amidst a plane crashing in the sea and another one having trouble with landing gear.

BBP - 31-12-2014 at 16:18

Cosy...
When I went to Portugal by plane in 1995, it was a Boeing 747 - the same type that crashed into an apartment block in Amsterdam in 1993 - it went to Faro, same airport as the ill-fated plane that crashed upon landing on Dec 21st 1992. It was a flight from the Martinair company - same company as the Faro crash. Was not happy. But got there safe and sound.

BBP - 1-1-2015 at 13:58

Started my new year with an upset stomach, threw up last night.

...And then you log on to Zappa.com and read the topic "Happy barfday, Gail". Hmm.

polydigm - 1-1-2015 at 20:41

Irony.

BBP - 2-1-2015 at 15:25

Sour irony rather than bitter irony.

aquagoat - 3-1-2015 at 10:24

Well, well, well, what can I say? the end of 2014 was almost the end of my life, I must thank my "perhaps future ex-girlfriend" for cutting the rope that got me swinging in the doorway of the cellar. Spent a few days in hospital, came back home on Wednesday. End of the year, probably end of an eight year relationship, 2015 can't really be worse, can it? We'll see what tomorrow will bring, I'm sure it's gonna be pretty tough, at the beginning at least. Well that's that stupid thing we call life that we keep spreading around.:umm:

BBP - 3-1-2015 at 11:42

Goodness Aqua... Hang in there buddy!

aquagoat - 3-1-2015 at 12:42

I'll try, I'm pretty lost and scared, but I think the worst is behind me. It's just really hard to see all I'll probably have lost in a few days, we've decided to have a break, but we all know that 99.99% of the time "break" means "goodbye that doesn't say its name", who knows, maybe I'll be in the 0.01% category.:umm: I've now got a psychiatrist following my butt, perhaps it'll help.

Caputh - 3-1-2015 at 15:04


aquagoat - 3-1-2015 at 15:09

No medication yet, we'll have to discuss that when I see him (tuesday) but I definitely need something to make me sleep, I've barely slept 3 hours a night for about a month. It's not enough.

BBP - 3-1-2015 at 16:36

Poor fellow, that lack of sleep will definitely make you feel awful! My Learn To Sleep Better book by Chris Idzikovsky (not too sure about the spelling) names depression as a possible cause for sleep deprivation and says explicity you need to seek help then. Unfortunately sleep deprivation is also a cause for depression.

If you have problems beause you can't set your mind still, what might help is: get a little exercise book and spend 15 minutes every day thinking about all the stuff you want and writing it down, so it's out of your system by the time you need sleep. All other tips I can give you are straightforward: go to sleep at a set time and wake up at a set time, don't sleep during the day (unless it's a catnap at set time), don't do drugs, don't drink alcohol (it's a known depressant as well) and cut caffeine. A lot of people are addicted to caffeine: try not to have any at all for a day, and if you get a pounding headache, you've found what you need to cut back on.

aquagoat - 3-1-2015 at 17:50

thanks a lot for your advice BB, I've just started writing things down today to get it out of me (and maybe use it for something else later), I don' t do drugs, I don't drink much alcohol (only during the week-end, but I haven't drunk any since Saturday afternoon) and I'm gonna quit drinking coffee, I didn't drink coffee before I met my girlfriend and moved to the north of the country (where they're known for drinking a lot of coffee), this may help.

BBP - 3-1-2015 at 23:43

Poor guy, can't stop thinking about you... :forumsmiley8:

KAPTKIRK - 4-1-2015 at 01:46

Quote: Originally posted by aquagoat  
thanks a lot for your advice BB, I've just started writing things down today to get it out of me (and maybe use it for something else later), I don' t do drugs, I don't drink much alcohol (only during the week-end, but I haven't drunk any since Saturday afternoon) and I'm gonna quit drinking coffee, I didn't drink coffee before I met my girlfriend and moved to the north of the country (where they're known for drinking a lot of coffee), this may help.


Smoke some herb mon. Put you where you wanna be...happy! Seriously, thats a bummer Goat. When you're invested and used to something being there and all of a sudden it's gone, can freak anyone out. But love is like spilled milk, you can cry over it or go out and get some more...you want some mora? Right here on the floora? Maybe in Sonora? It's a tough pill to swallow, but go out and just make yourself available. By this time next year, it will all seem like a foolish bad joke. Don't try and fix it, it's broken, go out and get a new one, the old one would never hold anyway! It's a new year and a new start my friend. Your lucky! Your free at last, thank dog almighty you're free at last! Well, as free as you can be down in France. Stay positive, take a valium and get some sleep. Things will look better on the 'morrow.
We love ya man!

Calvin - 4-1-2015 at 02:36

Sorry to hear about your problems, Mr. Goat. Sounds like the worst is probably over, though!



aquagoat - 4-1-2015 at 09:11

Quote: Originally posted by KAPTKIRK  
Quote: Originally posted by aquagoat  
thanks a lot for your advice BB, I've just started writing things down today to get it out of me (and maybe use it for something else later), I don' t do drugs, I don't drink much alcohol (only during the week-end, but I haven't drunk any since Saturday afternoon) and I'm gonna quit drinking coffee, I didn't drink coffee before I met my girlfriend and moved to the north of the country (where they're known for drinking a lot of coffee), this may help.


Smoke some herb mon. Put you where you wanna be...happy! Seriously, thats a bummer Goat. When you're invested and used to something being there and all of a sudden it's gone, can freak anyone out. But love is like spilled milk, you can cry over it or go out and get some more...you want some mora? Right here on the floora? Maybe in Sonora? It's a tough pill to swallow, but go out and just make yourself available. By this time next year, it will all seem like a foolish bad joke. Don't try and fix it, it's broken, go out and get a new one, the old one would never hold anyway! It's a new year and a new start my friend. Your lucky! Your free at last, thank dog almighty you're free at last! Well, as free as you can be down in France. Stay positive, take a valium and get some sleep. Things will look better on the 'morrow.
We love ya man!
I tend to think you're right, but stupidly I feel it's a bit too early to start a new relationship but I think I won't stay alone too long, it's far too difficult, I really need someone beside me. First thing to do is find a place to go and start a "new" life.
Thank you all for your support and the kind words.

aquagoat - 4-1-2015 at 09:17

Quote: Originally posted by BBP  
Poor guy, can't stop thinking about you... :forumsmiley8:
yeah, kisses, thanks a lot BB.

aquagoat - 4-1-2015 at 09:18

Quote: Originally posted by Calvin  
Sorry to hear about your problems, Mr. Goat. Sounds like the worst is probably over, though!


I hope so.

polydigm - 5-1-2015 at 00:19

My wife and I will be in the north of France in a couple of days time. I'll be thinking of you. Things will get back on track and the numbness will pass. All the best.

aquagoat - 5-1-2015 at 18:46

thanks a lot poly, hope you'll have a good time in the north.

BBP - 7-1-2015 at 16:59

Utterly shocked to hear of the attacks in Paris - hope you and Poly are allright... {hug}

aquagoat - 7-1-2015 at 18:09

yeah I heard about that today, I don't really know what to think about it yet, I haven't got enough information, but don't worry I have nothing to do in Paris.

BBP - 7-1-2015 at 18:28

It's...

Checked the Qu'ran for any relevant quotes. The copy I had lying around is in German and that's not too easy to interpret.
Then again, neither is the Qu'ran. The book is built of the direct sayings of Muhamad and as such is the most important holy book to Muslims (they also have the books of other prophets like Moses and Jesus as holy books, but because they're older they're tarnished). The earliest written copies of Muhamad's quotations were penned on palm leaves in the 9th century AD, still a few generations after Muhamad who died around 730 AD. At the time, Arabic didn't use any diacritical marks, you know those dots you can see in Arab writing? They denote important differences in pronounciation. It's possible that, over the course of the ages, the 72 Virgins thing actually is a deformation of the original 72 grapes.

polydigm - 9-1-2015 at 07:48


BBP - 9-1-2015 at 10:31


aquagoat - 10-1-2015 at 18:28

I moved to a workmate's house today, since the girlfriend and I have decided to have a break for awhile, I'll pay half he rent + extras, etc... the bedroom's a little creepy but it's big enough to put most of my vitally necessary stuff, so it's ok.:grin: Hope it'll turn out fine.

BBP - 10-1-2015 at 20:34

Sounds good!

aquagoat - 10-1-2015 at 23:53

hope so.

polydigm - 11-1-2015 at 16:49

Bonny, what I meant is that there a fruit loops who relish in violent acts who will adopt any cause that validates their hypocrisy. They're not what I call true believers. The current choice of violent madness is Jihad or whatever it's called and you'll probably find that the knowledge of nut cases of the religion they follow is paper thin. The christian bible is full of a similar amount of contradictory messages but that doesn't seem to have given rise in the modern world to an organisation committed to destroying anyone non christian. Yes there is a large following of some weird and wonderful religious fundamentalism in the USA but they're not suicide bombing anyone - yet.

polydigm - 11-1-2015 at 16:56


BBP - 11-1-2015 at 21:59

Quote: Originally posted by polydigm  
Bonny, what I meant is that there a fruit loops who relish in violent acts who will adopt any cause that validates their hypocrisy. They're not what I call true believers. The current choice of violent madness is Jihad or whatever it's called and you'll probably find that the knowledge of nut cases of the religion they follow is paper thin. The christian bible is full of a similar amount of contradictory messages but that doesn't seem to have given rise in the modern world to an organisation committed to destroying anyone non christian. Yes there is a large following of some weird and wonderful religious fundamentalism in the USA but they're not suicide bombing anyone - yet.


Surely you may remember the IRA, ETA, RAF... Aum Shinrikyo (committed the sarin attack on Tokyo subways in 1995) is sort of Christian... there's the International Sikh Youth Foundation... Irish National Liberation Army, Irish People's National Liberation Army, PKK, Kangleipak Communist Party, Maoist Communist Centre of India, Loyalist Volunteer Force...

BBP - 13-1-2015 at 14:13

Sounds like we won't be getting Charlie Hebdo out here. Only 500 copies out of the 3 million printed will be sent to NL.

polydigm - 16-1-2015 at 13:33

Yes, the problems in Northern Ireland continued into modern times, but although sides were grouped according to religion on the surface, the original real reasons for the difficulties go back to the Anglo-Norman intervention of Ireland in 1167. Members of the IRA were Irish and fighting for their own independence. Okay, the situation in Northern Ireland is complicated by the fact that even amongst the Irish, there is disagreement about how to resolve the situation, but given the presence of English armed forces maintaining what many see as foreign oppression, the situation is much more complicated and fundamentally different than a bunch of religious fanatics believing the whole world must subjugated to their religion and roaming the planet murdering relatively innocent people.

My point is that psychos often attach themselves to causes as a "valid" release for their own sick fantasies. This applies to any movement that uses violence, including the IRA.

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