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polydigm - 4-12-2017 at 01:18

That would have been very arresting to watch.

BBP - 4-12-2017 at 12:06

There's a mental hospital nearby, some of the people who saw him running thought he'd escaped.

aquagoat - 4-12-2017 at 20:44

Why lying? Why say yes when you actually want and can say no. I don't get it.

polydigm - 4-12-2017 at 22:55

Many people suffer from a lack of confidence to be honest. A related condition is feeling the need to please everyone. They believe the only way to escape from an uncomfortable situation is to give the expected answer regardless of its truth. This often goes back to being afraid of one or both of one's parents.

BBP - 4-12-2017 at 23:52

Different story, but same message,and a strange story you won't hear on your news because it's in The Netherlands... anyway...

Two weeks ago, Dutch Voice-winner Maan (translates to Moon) was performing live at radio 538. The programme makers, all men, thought it was "funny" to have a streaker enter the studio and do a little dance. Maan was so frightened she burst into tears. It took about 30 secs for the hosts to realize they really shouldn't have done that, but the most disturbing thing in the sound bite is:
Maan keeps apologizing for blubbing into tears, because she was so frightened.

Women are taught from an early age on that they shouldn't be a burden. Priscilla is in a misogynist society, she's probably had more than one person make a nasty remark because they won't take no for an answer.

Keep on looking, it's her loss...

BBP - 7-12-2017 at 12:49

Been feeling cold-miserable for days and I still have a large flyer-route to do... :duh:

polydigm - 7-12-2017 at 15:09

The weather here is pretty ridiculous; it's all over the place.

BBP - 7-12-2017 at 16:52

Flyer route took like 4 hours in the rain... not feeling too rosy...

BBP - 9-12-2017 at 22:33

They say snow's coming up but I haven't seen too much of it...

aquagoat - 10-12-2017 at 10:04

Just slept 12 hours straight, I guess I was a bit tired.

Yes, snow is coming. Or so they say. I hope it won't really come before the 22, though.

BBP - 10-12-2017 at 12:41

We have snow!

BBP - 10-12-2017 at 17:05

You wake up, clear the snow, do the groceries, have a chat with bf and it's already time to close the curtains...

BBP - 10-12-2017 at 19:00

I'm playing YAWYI now and it's giving me a headache again.

aquagoat - 11-12-2017 at 09:06

Quote: Originally posted by BBP

We have snow!

Well, we've got rain...

BBP - 11-12-2017 at 09:09

At the moment there's nothing, which means I have to do some groceries since There Will Be Snow.

polydigm - 11-12-2017 at 13:40

We've just had three very sunny days on the trot and generated 131.6 kWHr of electricity.

BBP - 11-12-2017 at 14:28

Wow!

We have Code Red here, which is ony reserved for the most severe traffic wrenching situations. Eindhoven Airport is closed, buses won't go from the central station and the highway between Eindhoven en Maastricht is closed.

It's near as bad as that December 24th when we had 20 cm of snow. I mean, it's like 7 cm and it's already sorta melting.

polydigm - 12-12-2017 at 00:27

Do I really want to move to Europe?

BBP - 12-12-2017 at 09:23

Dear dear Poly, The Netherlands has never been a country to visit for its beautiful climate.

BBP - 12-12-2017 at 21:06

Looks like I got a nifty Zappadan gift: Trouw, Volkskrant and NRC, the three intellectual national newspapers of the country, have today published their archives for all to see on Delpher. So I'm busy browsing and translating... don't tell others yet!

polydigm - 12-12-2017 at 21:46

BBP - 13-12-2017 at 01:07

Oh OK, sorry...

Spent a lot longer than I intended translating this stuff and I've only had the 60s now. Interesting!

aquagoat - 13-12-2017 at 19:36

Why are you beginning to wonder, Poly?

polydigm - 14-12-2017 at 14:26

Quote: Originally posted by aquagoat

Why are you beginning to wonder, Poly?

You guys have been talking about some problematic European weather and I was wondering whether or not I really should be considering moving to Europe.

Anyway, it's basically extreme hot weather versus extreme cold weather (okay it's not arctic, but it's colder than Australia). I'd rather have a really cold winter than have a really hot summer.

BBP - 14-12-2017 at 19:23

We say out here: you can dress to combat the chill but you can't dress to combat heat.

Our winters are hardly extreme because of the Gulf stream, we refer to our winters as "kwakkelwinters". "Kwakkelen" is what a person does who is often a little ill and keeps on going, but at the 50% setting. There have been isolated winters that were harsh - my father was able to walk on a frozen sea in 1963 and my BFs parents up north were treated to nigh 150 cm of snow in 1979. Yet the nefarious Elfstedentocht, the 200km ice skating match on natural ice, hasn't been held since 1996 because there haven't been any winters cold enough.

There are often a couple of real hot days in the summer season, but it rarely gets over body temperature here. And if you choose a place above sea level there's not much to fear for a few decades either.

BBP - 14-12-2017 at 21:08

That's some interview translating I have ahead of me...

polydigm - 15-12-2017 at 15:16

Quote: Originally posted by BBP

We say out here: you can dress to combat the chill but you can't dress to combat heat.

Exactly.

BBP - 15-12-2017 at 18:43

You know you're a Zappa-fan when you hear like the inth Torture Never Stops (let's see, Zoot, ZINY, Thing-Fish, YCDTOSA 1, YCDTOSA 4, Best Band, now Hammersmith... and you're still living it and not eager to turn it off just because it's supper time.

aquagoat - 15-12-2017 at 18:44

Quote: Originally posted by polydigm

Quote: Originally posted by aquagoat

Why are you beginning to wonder, Poly?

You can go to Spain or Italy, it'susually pretty hot, or the south of France.

aquagoat - 15-12-2017 at 18:46

Quote: Originally posted by BBP

You know you're a Zappa-fan when you hear like the inth Torture Never Stops (let's see, Zoot, ZINY, Thing-Fish, YCDTOSA 1, YCDTOSA 4, Best Band, now Hammersmith... and you're still living it and not eager to turn it off just because it's supper time.

That 's a pretty good description, metinks.

polydigm - 15-12-2017 at 23:53

I actually do prefer colder winters because when it's cold, it's cold and you just get used to it. Here we get cold spells interspersed with warm days and it's just much harder to settle into it. And don't get me started on the summers here.

Anyway, the weather isn't the only reason we want to move to Europe; it's not even the main reason.

BBP - 16-12-2017 at 00:05

If you're looking for continuity in weather, the Netherlands is not the right place.

Just translated another interview and I'm still at 1971! How can I ever finish all this before Zappadan is over?

I like this interview from De Tijd, especially because the interviewer notes that when Frank gets agitated to the point that you really want to stop pushing your luck, he'll begin with "first of all". Put that in the back of your head just in case you ever have the chance to interview a zombie FZ.

polydigm - 16-12-2017 at 13:52

BBP - 16-12-2017 at 13:58

No, that'd be continuity. Although we have eight-week-long rain waves, but if you think that's a barrel of laughs, you'd be wrong unless you really like jumping in puddles and swatting mosquitoes all night.

Still on 1971! I don't believe it! How am I ever going to get the interviews finished by the 21st!

polydigm - 17-12-2017 at 23:58

BBP - 18-12-2017 at 12:45

Not a barrel of laughs today either.
Started off with a trip to the dentist. Hygienist was way too firm with cleaning them and at one point had to stop and let me spit because there was too much blood.
No cavities though, but I'll be feeling this for a few days.

Just had a mail from the book fair, I worked there in November. My salary won't be paid for some time and they apologized for the delay.

TV just went on for no reason. I'm spooked. And sore. Primarily sore.

Listening to Zappa, about to continue the translating I was doing. Yesterday I got interrupted because of the AIVD christmas puzzle becoming available - a monster as always. I solved one teensy question so far.

aquagoat - 18-12-2017 at 16:01

aquagoat - 18-12-2017 at 16:05

Quote: Originally posted by BBP

Not a barrel of laughs today either.
Started off with a trip to the dentist. Hygienist was way too firm with cleaning them and at one point had to stop and let me spit because there was too much blood.
No cavities though, but I'll be feeling this for a few days.

Just had a mail from the book fair, I worked there in November. My salary won't be paid for some time and they apologized for the delay.

TV just went on for no reason. I'm spooked. And sore. Primarily sore.

Listening to Zappa, about to continue the translating I was doing. Yesterday I got interrupted because of the AIVD christmas puzzle becoming available - a monster as always. I solved one teensy question so far.

What reason did they give you for the delay?

BBP - 18-12-2017 at 17:51

None.

Hey, I waited for the ZPZ tour...

aquagoat - 18-12-2017 at 20:36

None? You worked for them and they gave you no reason why you money will be held back folr a while? Fists would be flying if I was in that situation. I hope you'll get your money soon, please, dont let them play you, you MUST get yourself respected and get your money before christmas!

BBP - 18-12-2017 at 21:28

Tomorrow I'll start looking for my work note.

aquagoat - 18-12-2017 at 22:20

Honey, take that seriously, or they'll get used to doing that. They didn't give you favour, working for them, YOU gave them a favour. It's your money, they must give it to you as planned.

BBP - 18-12-2017 at 22:38

I am taking it seriously. It's my proof that I worked for them for 60 hours.

aquagoat - 19-12-2017 at 19:13

Good!

polydigm - 20-12-2017 at 01:12

My Mum passed away recently, after a long difficult time with dementia, so it was a blessed relief. I'm now starting to reemerge from a five year long shadow.

BBP - 20-12-2017 at 12:32

Sorry to hear about that, Poly...

aquagoat - 20-12-2017 at 19:14

Ouch, sorry about your mum, Poly.

polydigm - 20-12-2017 at 23:09

Thanks for your thoughts guys. A great weight has lifted off my shoulders.

BBP - 21-12-2017 at 22:21

I've found my note. It was still in my wallet. I now put it in a noticeable place on the side table, underneath the lava lamp.

BBP - 22-12-2017 at 16:29

Remember last time I worked as a cleaner? When my tire burst and I had to walk home for over 2 hours?
Turns out I wasn't paid for that either, little snafu...

My dole was put on hold because the people in charge there know I've worked at this time.

:swear:

polydigm - 22-12-2017 at 22:36

Surely that's good news? That's money you'd forgotten and should get at some point.

BBP - 23-12-2017 at 00:47

Dude! I don't have a steady income! How much money do you think I have now that neither the unemployment benefit nor regular salary came in! I'm invited to visit my family up north on the 28th (BF's parents have their wedding anniversary, talk about a pleasant change of environment) and I could go there, but I'm not sure if:
A I can get everything arranged on time, because everybody's out;
B I have enough money to come back.

That's a great thing to learn right before Christmas, I tell you that.

polydigm - 24-12-2017 at 07:19

That's not what I meant- I obviously misunderstood. I thought you meant that you had discovered the possibility of some income that you had forgotten about.

BBP - 24-12-2017 at 13:45

Sorry Poly, I understand. I was very upset about the whole thing...

BF bought me some train tickets, so I can go back. Thanks sweetheart! <3

(OK not like he's going to read this...)

aquagoat - 25-12-2017 at 07:55

Merry Christmas to you all, guys! :grin:

BBP - 25-12-2017 at 16:56

Merry Christmas everyone!

polydigm - 25-12-2017 at 23:50

Merry Christmas indeed!

BBP - 26-12-2017 at 01:15

Merry Christmas!

I've finished translating!

aquagoat - 26-12-2017 at 08:26

Good job, Bonny, now, that's dedication.

polydigm - 26-12-2017 at 09:50

I know I haven't said anything yet, but I have been checking out your latest batch of translations. One of the things that has appealed to me in the past about the Netherlands is that it seems a little more progressive than places like the US and Australia. That's what I get reading a lot of the stuff you've translated. Now that may not be unanimous and may have been a struggle, but we've been going backwards here in Australia for the last 40 years and we weren't that progressive to start with.

BBP - 26-12-2017 at 10:46

Yay, people read it! :bald:

There's been a lot of surprises while I was making this, most recently it was finding Theodor Holman, a grumpy rightwing foreigner hater columnist, turned out to have interviewed FZ at the age of 16, with his friend, lugging a forty pound tape recorder - and speaking too little English to pull it off. Sure was a perceptive changer!

But also stuff I didn't write down, like how often his music was played by classical music players, flanked by other classical music, even during his lifetime. All the little projects he mentioned like once in an interview somewhere and that never got off the ground.
...Aaaaanyway...

BBP - 27-12-2017 at 08:19

I'm gonna have to make a lot of phonecalls today... after that I can hopefully get on the way to my BF!

aquagoat - 27-12-2017 at 08:31

Tried to call my granny on monday, to wish her a merry christmas, couldn't reach her. I tried again yesterday, couldn't reach her either. Finally, my mother called me late in the afternoon to tell me my grandmother was hospitalized for a little stroke, nothing serious, apparently. It sucks.

BBP - 27-12-2017 at 08:36

I'm sorry to hear that Aqua, I hope she's allright...

aquagoat - 27-12-2017 at 18:40

Apparently, she should be back home tomorrow.

BBP - 28-12-2017 at 13:00

Oh that's good, I hope she's fine!

BBP - 28-12-2017 at 14:23

Back at BF's again...

BBP - 29-12-2017 at 11:48

Went to a pancake restaurant with BF's family, parents, three kids plus their sweethearts, and 3 grandkids. Was fun!

BBP - 1-1-2018 at 22:45

Happy new year everybody!

NYE was great, all BF's family went to celebrate it at his sister's house, we lit fireworks and watched the fireworks from the roof at midnight, which was breathtaking.
Today I had to go home, and I celebrated by throwing up my first dinner of the year.

polydigm - 1-1-2018 at 23:31

Happy new year!

I hope your grandmother's okay Aqua.

Too much of a good thing Bonny?

BBP - 2-1-2018 at 00:05

No, just your regular food poisoning.

BF's family's hit hard times, with his mother and both grandmothers in need of specialized healthcare - there's a good chance he'll lose both his grandmothers in the same month.

aquagoat - 2-1-2018 at 09:01

Happy new yearto you, guys.

Well, my grandmother's been hospitalized again, she should go out this week. I don't think she's gonna last long. We'll see.

Sorry to hear about your boyfriend's family's health difficulties, Bonny. It's a bad time for grannies; apparently.

BBP - 2-1-2018 at 09:17

Sorry to hear about that Aqua...

aquagoat - 2-1-2018 at 16:27

Well, it's ok, she's pretty old, she doesn't want to stay around forever anyway, these are her words, lol.

And by the way, regular food poisoning is the best of food poisonings, you can really feel the pain, not like those fancy artsy millennial food poisonings derived from the consumption of soy related products and veggies that they have nowadays... ;-)

Actually, at Christmas, I ate so much in such a restricted period of time I nearly thres up. I'm no longer used to eating that much.

polydigm - 4-1-2018 at 14:28

What's the health system like in the Netherlands Bonny?

BBP - 4-1-2018 at 17:21

At the moment it's rather difficult "thanks" to twenty years of right-wing politics, we're all obligated to have health insurance or else pay a fine. The state subsidises poorer inhabitants like yours truly - I get 85 euros per month to pay for healthcare.

There's a legally set obligated fee you have to pay before you can get to the insurance - I think it's around 300 euros now, this means that a lot of poorer people who are in need of (often mental) health care are not getting it becuase they can't afford it.

Generally healthcare quality is quite good. BF's family however living up north, which is not the ideal place for people to live permanently. Whether that influences the healthcare, I hope not. But one problem he told me about is the local hospitals sometimes run out of money before the year is out, which means bigger surgeries and treatments are sometimes either moved to another hospital, or postponed to the new year.

BBP - 5-1-2018 at 00:44

Made a fresh translation!
http://packardgoose.ploeg.ws/interactive/forums/Files/viewth...

BBP - 9-1-2018 at 13:27

Not feeling too well today... Sick bay here!

polydigm - 11-1-2018 at 07:54

I've been busy cutting down a very large tree.

I hope you're feeling better Bonny.

BBP - 11-1-2018 at 09:21

Better... How's the tree coming along? Are you still in one piece?

We now no longer have a paper phonebook, talk about the end of an era.
I've never been in a phone book in my life.

BBP - 14-1-2018 at 13:46

I'm doing the last strains of the AIVD puzzle. Tomorrow's the last day we can hand it in.

Besides that I've got another temp job...

aquagoat - 15-1-2018 at 19:01

Congrats on the job, Bonny.

BBP - 15-1-2018 at 20:22

I'll b without it agaun next week...

polydigm - 16-1-2018 at 14:27

I'm fine. I've got all the branches with foliage down. I now have to bring down the remainder of the tree one log at a time.

BBP - 17-1-2018 at 10:09

Good luck on that!

Managed to cut my lip while licking an envelope.

BBP - 18-1-2018 at 16:38

We're in the news again - a fierce thunderstorm has so far caused 2 or 3 casualties in The Netherlands. In my street, 2 trees blew over. It's been 11 years since we last had a storm of this ferocity.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2212489-stormvideo-s-kinderwagen-onts...

BBP - 20-1-2018 at 18:49

DED - 25-1-2018 at 00:34

On saturday nothing worked, due to a migration at our provider. Domain redirection was not working, subdomains were not working. By now or in the next 24 hours it should be working when you use
http://packardgoose.ploeg.ws/interactive/forums/Files/index....

BBP - 25-1-2018 at 15:22

Million thanks! It works again!

aquagoat - 25-1-2018 at 19:30

Haaa, that's the reason why I couldn't reach this place. Glad everything's back in order.

BBP - 26-1-2018 at 09:40

Hurray!

I'm at BF's again, for his sister's bachelorette party. We're going to a silver smith to make rings.

BBP - 27-1-2018 at 13:47

My ring turned out... let's call it rustic...

DED - 27-1-2018 at 14:16

ah a rusted ring

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BBP - 27-1-2018 at 14:17

No it's silver, it doesn't rust.

BBP - 29-1-2018 at 21:58

How's everybody holding up?

aquagoat - 30-1-2018 at 19:32

I'm fine. Lots of work recently, but it's a good thing.

polydigm - 30-1-2018 at 22:38

BBP - 31-1-2018 at 21:15

I'm at the temp job again since the woman I'm replacing has fallen ill. Today was very wet - I got soaked getting there, then again I got soaked leaving there, I got soaked for a third time when I went to Geldrop, and then I was soaked a 4th time but that was in the shower.

Been looking into bookbinding and book restauration: at a tiny second-hand shoppe I found a first edition of a Heinz (silly newspaper comic about a cat that ran for quite a long time). Only thing is - it smells terrible. How can I get the smell out without buying kitty litter or digging up our misplaced blow-dryer? Hmm...

polydigm - 31-1-2018 at 22:29

I've got a couple of books, whose bindings fell apart, that I rebound myself. They don't look professional, but I got a lot of satisfaction out of repairing them.

BBP - 31-1-2018 at 23:09

Great!

There's at least one book I have that I'm considering to have fixed - it's a first edition of the 1938 novel Karakter by Bordewijk, my favourite book. It's very, very high in my most prized possessions - unfortunately the binding on one side's not too good anymore...

I bought that for 15 euros at a second-hand bookstore, which I felt was "expensive to my taste but worth it". Just found it auctioned for 175 euros.

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