James Bond

BBP - 2-11-2005 at 23:26

Just curious... Who around here likes James Bond?
I do... Should I be embarrassed?

James - 2-11-2005 at 23:39

No not at all. I'm not a big fan but I can see why people like it. It's a bit exaggerated for me...

Pappawas1975 - 3-11-2005 at 12:35

I like the classics, but Im not sure that new guy looks like a Bond, yknow?...the proof of course, will be in the movie....Speaking of movies, Im going to see Saw II tonight.......The first Saw was a great movie....

BBP - 3-11-2005 at 16:33

Yeah. A blonde Bond? Even Ahmet looks more like Bond than that new guy.

Pappawas1975 - 3-11-2005 at 18:13

I really dug the George Lazenby movie, with him as Bond.....

BBP - 4-11-2005 at 12:53

All Roger Moore films quality: Have you seen Moonraker?
I'm not too keen on Moore... think he turned Bond into a clown. Live and Let Die is great though.

Puptent - 4-11-2005 at 13:01

I kind of like the Moore films and his tongue-in-cheek depiction of James Bond. Of course I'm a sucker for lots of movies from the 70s with guys walking around in bellbottoms or gigantic afro's.

I thought all the Pierce Brosnan movies sucked. Lets hope this new guy is somewhat better, although it mostly depends on the script writing,

[Edited on 4-11-2005 by Puptent]

BBP - 4-11-2005 at 13:23

Thought Brosnan would have been a good Bond, he's got more charm than Moore... apart from World Is Not Enough, which is rather good, he was victimized by poor scriptwriting... 60 foot tall waves in the Sea of Japan, Bond getting imprisoned for more than a year, DNA-transplantation, an extra sun being hauled with love without considering global warming... and that's just Die Another Day!

Pappawas1975 - 10-11-2005 at 16:54

Thought Brosnan was ok, nee' average.....Moore is the man for me, the English choice rather than the Scottish choice......

BBP - 10-11-2005 at 17:32

After Sean, Timothy's the Bond for me... but that's based on looks. Plus he's a great actor. I'm not too keen on Moore... he looks a bit creepy to me. I like his accent though. Sean's accent pissed me off occasionally...

...worst bit being in Diamonds Are Forever, where he's pretending he's Dutch, exclaims Guten Abend (= German) and asks "Who is your floor?".

Pappawas1975 - 10-11-2005 at 17:33

Classic.......

BBP - 10-11-2005 at 17:35

...Embarrassing... though I must admit my Engleesh soundit layk tet before I went to secondary school.

Pappawas1975 - 10-11-2005 at 17:37

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Originally posted by BBP
...Embarrassing... though I must admit my Engleesh soundit layk tet before I went to secondary school.

Well, this is definitely the post of the day so far.....!!Ha!

BBP - 10-11-2005 at 18:03

Best Bond joke IMO is with the belly dancer in Golden Gun, after James has sneakily stolen her lucky charm:
-I lost my charm!!!!
-Not from where I'm standing.

Pappawas1975 - 11-11-2005 at 09:10

I hope youre being sarcastic BB....?

James - 11-11-2005 at 13:25

Quote:

Originally posted by BBP
Best Bond joke IMO is with the belly dancer in Golden Gun, after James has sneakily stolen her lucky charm:
-I lost my charm!!!!
-Not from where I'm standing.

That's why I don'l like Bond. The jokes are so poor.

BBP - 11-11-2005 at 13:52

No, I really rolled over the floor at that point... almost anyway. It's probably different when you read a joke in the Dutch subtitles (at the same time) which is even worse.

:offtopic:
Translation is a hard job. Consider the following lines, as spotted in some American sitcom:
-How did you get here so fast?
-I've been choppered in.

This got translated to Dutch as following:
-Hoe kom jij hier zo snel?
-Ik ben in stukjes gehakt.

In English:
-How did you get here so fast?
-I've been chopped up.

Pappawas1975 - 11-11-2005 at 17:18

Ok, I getcha...

scallopino - 22-11-2005 at 03:55

I always liked the music in the pre-nineties Bond movies. Now it's like Bond goes clubbing in his spare time. They have to have the cheesy electronica go reflect the hi-tech Bond.

BBP - 22-11-2005 at 18:34

Yeah... John Barry was superb. Though eighties Bond has some terrible music, "A View To A Kill" and "Living Daylights" (Duran Duran, A-HA) are ghastly.

BBP - 6-3-2006 at 23:18

Just saw "Tomorrow Never Dies". In full. Got very close to falling azleep. And how the hell did Daphne Deckers get in?

scallopino - 7-3-2006 at 13:13

Haven't seen it. Was that the very latest one, with miss madonna doing the theme? No wait, that was Die Another Day or something. Was this before or after The World Is Not Enough?

BBP - 7-3-2006 at 19:40

Just before World. Something about a media tycoon (played by Jonathan Pryce (Juan Peron in Evita)) who tries to gain transmission rights in China by causing a crisis between China and Britain. Odd plot. Obviously sponsored by Ericsson. Though the music is better than that of any Bond since Moonraker.

Die Another Day has to do with a guy from Korea who had a DNA-transplant so he looks like a blonde white German. :duh: He has made an extra sun out of diamonds, with that sun he can destroy things.

BBP - 7-3-2006 at 19:42

Sheryl Crow did the theme song of Tomorrow Never Dies:
"Darling I'm killed, I'm in a puddle on a floor,
Waiting for you to return..."

Puptent - 7-3-2006 at 19:43

"Die Another Day", "Tomorrow Never Dies"... who thinks up these cheesy titles?

[Edited on 7-3-2006 by Puptent]

scallopino - 8-3-2006 at 08:38

Hey watch it viv. My grandmother's name is Octopussy.

BBP - 8-3-2006 at 15:25

You Only Live Twice is a title from a Fleming book, I think. Who came up with TND or DAD I don't know. GoldenEye was the name of Fleming's house.

scallopino - 9-3-2006 at 07:58

Yes! Do you know her?

scallopino - 10-3-2006 at 01:12

:lol:

i knew it all along. My mother was English, btw...

vivien_o_blivion - 18-3-2006 at 23:03

BBP - 19-3-2006 at 00:14

Ha! Cute smiley!

In the next release, Sean Bont will return in:
Live and let Eat

Doctor: You must lose weight.
Homer: Hunger never dies

(At the bottom: Colorado Never Dies)

BBP - 10-11-2006 at 12:21

Quote:

Originally posted by BBP
Best Bond joke IMO is with the belly dancer in Golden Gun, after James has sneakily stolen her lucky charm:
-I lost my charm!!!!
-Not from where I'm standing.

How could I say that? Must've been before I saw Goldfinger...

Anyway I'm enjoying all the Bond advertizing. In NL it has taken the shape of a Bond film month showing 14 Bonds. :rolleyes:

Anyone here seen Casino Royale yet? Or is anyone going to see it on short notice?

punknaynowned - 10-11-2006 at 19:23

Is there a re-make of Casino Royale happening?

BBP - 12-11-2006 at 14:37

You haven't noticed that yet? Or are you being cynical?
It's to be an official Bond, starring Daniel Craig. (or David Craig, I keep forgetting)

I've seen one scene this far, and I couldn't say Craig was a most fantastic pick, look-wise anyway. Then again, neither is Roger Moore.

Badchild - 8-4-2008 at 16:06

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Originally posted by BBP
You haven't noticed that yet? Or are you being cynical?
It's to be an official Bond, starring Daniel Craig. (or David Craig, I keep forgetting)

I've seen one scene this far, and I couldn't say Craig was a most fantastic pick, look-wise anyway. Then again, neither is Roger Moore.

It's time this thread was bumped, cause i'm a JBond fan since childhood...

Daniel Craig is simply the best James Bond since anyone...He looks like a killer and wears the spy uniform without looking cheesy! Can't wait for the next one...And he is a great actor. Check him out in Layer Cake and Infamous...Truly a remarkable actor.

BBP - 8-4-2008 at 17:12

Ah hmm... well... haven't seen him yet... to me he looked more like a bad guy. Then again, a lot of early Bond bad guys look like good guys. Like that Blofeld that was also in Rocky Horror Picture Show.

BBP - 21-4-2008 at 13:15

OK... I've seen CR now and can say I officially think it sucks. I don't like poker enough to watch it for 30 minutes. Too lengthy sections with unclear or no plot. Unfriendly and ugly main character. It wouldn't be so dreadful if he was ugly if they didn't keep on saying he's a hunk.

A lot of people (like my dad, while watching) claim Bond isn't about the plot. But it sure is an important factor. There's no explosion good enough to counteract the invisible car and 2nd sun from DAD. There's no excuse for the gigantic plothole that is created by making a "young Bond" story take place post-9/11. And by the way it's presented it can't be overlooked.

Also I preferred DAD's advertising. It's not as blatantly obvious as in CR.
In my ratings I do prefer CR over DAD, TND and GoldenEye. It has decent music (except for the theme which is too noisy), story's not completely ridiculous, and the settings in Montenegro and Venice are nice.

polydigm - 21-4-2008 at 15:11

I enjoyed Casino Royale. I think Daniel Craig makes a good Bond. The plot was more than adequate, it is after all a Bond film.

BBP - 21-4-2008 at 16:42

Most early Bond films have a decent plot, like Goldfinger and From Russia With Love. It's not unfeasible, understandable and could make sense, and there's plenty of tempo. If you play poker for half an hour you lose a lot of speed, which is tough on non-Poker players. I myself often lost track of what JB was doing whenever he ran off the table again. And I completely missed who were the two guys that he killed somewhere in the "hour pause".

CR has an OK plot, but it could've been better... there's a large section when he's with Lynd, has just killed the poker opponent with the scar (Le Chiffre I think it was) and there's absolutely nothing happening.

Did you notice how often I say poker here? Isn't it GREAT to be able to type poker!!!:rsvd:

DED - 21-4-2008 at 22:54

I agree with you that this in not a Bondmovie like the others.
I miss the Sony taperecorders,
It was funny that Leiter all of the sudden changed into a colored one.
I missed the stunning stunts, filmed in daytime

That sometimes you loose the story, that forr me is quite normal in a Bond movie. When I first saw Diamonds are Forever in the cinema, i didn't get the story. All the other Bonds we have seen them yearly. When you reed the books that is more confusing. There the story is clear but sometimes a Bond movie has a title of a book and none of the plot, that came out of different books.

scallopino - 22-4-2008 at 10:19

I haven't seen the new one, but I don't really like any of the new era Bond movies. Especially the last three or so...the music is just awful for a start. I KNOW that there's a lot of advanced technology; why do I have to LISTEN to it??? I think the music in the old Bonds with the various themes coming in over and over again in different ways is so strong that you can just keep using them in each movie without them getting boring.

I agree with Bonny about plot. I really don't give a shit about explosions and gadgetry by themselves (unless they're on mythbusters). I'd much prefer the Bond movies to focus on plot and the characters like in the 60s and 70s instead of trying to give the impression of cutting edge technology all the time. I think the movie Gattaca did this exact thing really well: it was in the style of an old movie (and everybody wore 50s style suits) but it was set in a highly technological future.

BBP - 22-4-2008 at 11:17

Hey! You like Mythbusters too?

I liked The World Is Not Enough though, that was my first Bond, and I saw it in cinema. It has my least favourite Bond-girl though (Christmas).
What I also dislike about newer Bonds is they take the swing out of the Bond theme.

scallopino - 22-4-2008 at 13:16

I love Mythbusters! I think they combine science and engineering and entertainment so well. Adam is hilarious and Carrie is frankly quite the fox.

There was a bond girl named Christmas? What were they thinking with that one?

And the swing Bond theme was the BEST! I love it. I used to play in a concert band until recently that did it and it just takes off. It's almost like The Stripper, but cooler and more sinister.

BBP - 22-4-2008 at 14:57

She's called Kari, Kari Byron.
Myself I find it hard to choose between Grant and Tory... and Adam always cracks me up when he's juggling.

Christmas Jones is from The World Is Not Enough, played by Denise Richards. There's also Elektra King, played by Sophie Marceau. I thought Richard's too plain. But Christmas is a nuclear physicist.

(Denise Richards is the girl behind Brosnan.)

scallopino - 23-4-2008 at 14:43

I've actually seen that. I saw it with my grandmother at the movies, but my eyes were so bad at the time that i had to wear sunglasses and they were closed most of the time. So I don't remember much about it. Except that there was a giant oil pipeline or something. Is that right?

BBP - 23-4-2008 at 20:30

There was! Elektra King's father was installing a pipeline, then he got shot. There are neato shots of Bond lying on a skateboardy thing rolling through the pipeline to get to the bad guys.

What did you get with your eyes? Too much sunshine?

scallopino - 24-4-2008 at 11:24

Maybe not enough sunshine

I don't know exactly what I had but every now and again my eyes became infected and I was in constant pain until I fell asleep, and the light just made it worse. I wore sunglasses all the time. I can't remember if it was diagnosed as something specific...I think it was a combination of things.

Which is your favourite Bond movie? There was a time maybe ten years ago when one of the tv stations played a different Bond every week, so I've seen most of them. I don't remember them too well. I saw probably most of the Connery and Moore ones before I saw a newer one, and that might be why i'm biased.

BBP - 24-4-2008 at 17:50

GoldFinger, followed closely by From Russia With Love and Thunderball. I'm also fond of the Dalton Bonds Licenced To Kill and The Living Daylights.

And yours? :cool:

punknaynowned - 24-4-2008 at 19:32

I'm sorry to hear you've had so much trouble with your eyes scallop

scallopino - 25-4-2008 at 01:14

Hey, thanks Poly :bald: Thankfully it all went away after a few years, so the only problems I have now is trying to read speed signs before I pass them in a car.

scallopino - 25-4-2008 at 01:41

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Originally posted by BBP
GoldFinger, followed closely by From Russia With Love and Thunderball. I'm also fond of the Dalton Bonds Licenced To Kill and The Living Daylights.

And yours? :cool:

Why do my posts sometimes get doubled? Anyway, I think From Russia With Love is my favourite.

BBP - 25-4-2008 at 09:52

Is OK... I deleted it already. FRWL has a great plot but when they sit in the train for so long it tends to drag. I love Goldfinger for its music. And the solid gold laser beam.

There's an episode of Dexter's Lab called Photo Finish which makes a great Bond parody, including the gold laser scene. I loved that episode. And I love Dexter, of course. Unfortunately said episode's not on YouTube.