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[*] posted on 12-10-2006 at 10:24
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So what's the plan? The idea was to make this site into a biography, after one particularly erroneous book aroused a lot of anger with some fans. We like to raise as many fans as possible, and let everyone write some paragraphs, chapters, add some facts etcetera to the Great Frank Zappa Biography.

When are we going to start/restart?
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[*] posted on 12-10-2006 at 12:36


ok,
I'll work at this. My initial questions are what to include, what not to include. It's been years since I read the real fz book and I read maybe no commercial potential years ago as well and certainly don't have those books around any more. I've seen bonny's intense transcription of the fz, dvv, gd seminar from '75 -- kickass! there are many more already out there on the net. I'm an fz fan for 20 years and have learned most of what I've learned from the net -- so many zappa fan sites . . . some aren't around anymore. [supply your own list here] I love what graham johnston did for beefheart. You can get a real sense of the things that seemed important to the artist just by looking around over there. All without ever talkin to the man.
Here's a question. Should it be fulll of unsubstantiated or subjective opinion in the name of being more inclusive -- including more input from more members etc? Or where would one draw a line?
Another question concerns music. Of course ideally, wouldn't it be great to have a stream up of constantly revolving music so there's music going on behind the reading? That's something I've wanted to do for a long time whether zappa related or not. am familiar with the cease and desist letter sent to the chrome dinette site. a guess, maybe gojira 75 knows about the streaming stuff.

I know, I'm just a guest. But I do know nobody can do all of it and everybody has different things to offer and/or contribute and different talents etc.

Again, most important: what to include and what not to . . .
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[*] posted on 12-10-2006 at 16:10


Well we could put the objective material on the site and discuss the N. Lennon-like topics on the Forum...



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[*] posted on 12-10-2006 at 21:51


lol, I'm sorry, what do you mean 'N. Lennon-like topics'?
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I think I know objective. What do you mean? dots on paper, set lists, release dates? Or since it is 'packard goose' maybe stories of shows as they are found, maybe news articles? interview transcripts are great for the audially incompatible [the ones that don't have just the correct software application;)]. . . but take forever to actually do, to stop and listen and type it all up little bit by bit.
everyone's english here seems great, but I can go off the deep end with it sometimes and I certainly don't know any dutch or french, say. I see vivien o' is from the UK?
what do you all want to do? Many things have already been done . . . Perhaps my overly ordered head would like to simply see central reasonable kiosks on the web where good info could always be found . . .

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[*] posted on 12-10-2006 at 23:13


Nigey Lennon... some lady who once wrote a book in which she describes having an affair with FZ in the early seventies. Some fans, if not most fans, think she's nuts.

It's true... many things have already been done...
What I'd like to do was Viv's suggestion upon me spewing anger over Barry Miles's Zappa biography. Us Zappa-fans would write our own. Some sort of Wikipedia perhaps.

I should start up this thing...




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[*] posted on 14-10-2006 at 18:07


Y'know, that's one of the things I was wanting to say. That there is a tremendous amount of work involved. As you know better than I running packardgoose. and what all else you all do.
But if I were to help, I would require a better idea of what y'all wanted to do, is all. and I'm not impatient at all, I just have more free time this fall.
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[*] posted on 16-10-2006 at 10:21


Only bbp can tell about the strategy she likes to follow.
If we like to have the goose transferred from a subdomain again to the com domain we once started, I like to see a site that is adding a few extra's to the existing fansites. The com domain is registered upto september 2007 by Servage. After that it is most likely that is for sale again. We also can transfer to the packardgoose.net or something like that.
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[*] posted on 17-10-2006 at 17:26


I don't mean to be overtly negative, but isn't there tons of biographical FZ info already available on the Internet? It 'll be pretty tough to come up with something that really has the edge over the information that's already available for free (and mostly a lot more reliable than Barry Miles' book, or so it seems...). Kind of feels like re-inventing the wheel to me...

One thing that would seem like a good idea to me, is an up to date tour guide for Zappa cover bands, former band members, other FZ related events etc. I can't really think of another site that has info like that easily available. For one thing, I missed the XLJazz big band Zappa performance last week because I found out too late...




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[*] posted on 18-10-2006 at 10:20


-Well, yes, there is. There's so much Zappa information on the Net spread out over many, many pages, and putting them together will be tedious.
-Any book that has not been written by Nigey Lennon is more accurate than Barry Miles.
-A tour guide will be problematic because there's quite a few performing everywhere, and we'd have to limit ourselves to a certain area (or have quite a few relyable sources on the subject)

Sorry to hear about XLJ... that's always a bummer... I missed Rosa ensemble twice which I'd loved to see since three of its members had a talk in our class. At least there's the CD...




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