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| Quote: | Originally posted by BBP
We watched scenes from Barry Lyndon during the introduction week when I was about to study history. (We also watched scenes from Gladiator,
Blackadder, Braveheart and The Longest Day). It really interested me, even though it seemed like a stretch. Particularly the scenes with
candle-light.
Later, during the Roman History classes, we also watched half an hour of Spartacus (and Life of Brian, but that's another story). We also watched part
of that movie in history class at secondary school (but that particular teacher had the annoying habit of not finishing films we started watching. He
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Yeah, the cinematography in Barry Lyndon won it an academy award i think. It almost looks like a painting.
I love the Life of Brian. The severely disabled jailer is Terry Gilliam, who directed most of the Python movies and wrote the liner notes to The Best
Of Frank Zappa.
Fortunately, we never had to watch Evita at high school but we did have to sit through the Titanic! I don't know what's worse.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DED
Back to the Bond movies, I'm completely confused because I read recently the written versions and they are so different from the movies. Some movies
are build out of several stories and not used parts of the books appear in other movies that follow more or less the story in the book. Sometimes the
only thing in common is the title, but most of all, every spectaculair scene is not in the book.
I'm still wondering after I've seen the movie over and over again why on earth in "For your eyes only" The Greek girl leaves the diving equipment
behind. Later it is a life saver, but the need of leaving your oxygen down there is a complete mystery to me.
For Stanley K. movies I haven't seen one of them when they came out. Maybe I was to young. But I can remember al the discussions on Lolita and
Clockwork. From the last one I can remember all the pictures hangin' around the cinema.
And I'm looking for the Dutch Movie "Blonde Dolly"
Sybille Alida Johanna Niemans, also known as Blonde Dolly, was a Dutch woman murdered by strangulation on 1959-11-02.
Her murderer was never caught. Mrs. Niemans was born in Amsterdam as the daughter of a shoemaker. Her first job was that of a fortune teller, but
after her divorce somewhere in the mid-1950s, she became a lady of company for rich businessmen. It is assumed that she was murdered because of her
knowledge of things in the beau monde of the Hague, but this was never proven and it is unlikely the killer will be caught after nearly fifty years.
And why am I so interested, you may ask.
Well it's quite a nice story, When I was in The Hague redecorating the shower, I also visited the grave of my father.
On the entrance of the graveyard they have something new. In a all wether cabinet there is a computer and a printer. With the help of the computer you
can find graves by typing the name of the person who is buried there. I typed in my fathers name and when it came up, I printed the result The paper
was standard a plan of the yard now printed with the best route to the grave. On the plan there were also numbers corresponding with special views
for a tour around the place. On the back a short explanation.
The grave of "Blonde Dolly" was also mentioned and the short story of her life ended with "Her grave is now in posession of the city" Wich means that
they will clean the place for another one. Therefore I went to the grave now it was still possible, you can say, it was the first time of my life
that I visited a prostitute. Standing before her grave, I read the inscription and found out that she has the same birthday as my mother and she
died november the second. And that day of my visit it was November the second. Spooky isn't it?
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How many Bond books are there? Did they stop being written? Is that Fleming guy still alive?
You know what? We get a lot of Dutch movies here in Australia. At least a handful every week on SBS. You must have a really booming film industry.
At least if Mrs Niemans gives her body to you, you won't have to pay her any fees! 
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I don't know how many James Bond books there are. I have not seen new ones. We have
For your eyes only
Moonraker
The spy who loved me
You only live twice
Thunderball
Docter No
The man with the Golden Gun
Diamonds are forever
On her majesty's secret service
Octopussy
Al Dutch translations
For your eyes only is translated in
"Van een blik tot een moord" if you translate that in English it says "From a view to a kill" In the book there are five parts starting with From a
view to a kill then For your eyes only, The quantum theory, risk, and the "Hildebrand rariteit"
The first titles are also movie titles but not completely the same story in fact For your eyes only is completely different, from the other stories
parts are used.
Ian Fleming s no longer among us (died in 1964)
All the bond books
James Bond
* Casino Royale (1953)
* Live And Let Die (1954)
* Moonraker (1955)
* Diamonds Are Forever (1956)
* From Russia With Love (1957)
* Doctor No (1958)
* Goldfinger (1959)
* For Your Eyes Only (several storiesl, 1960)
* Thunderball (1961)
* The Spy Who Loved Me (1962)
* On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1963)
* You Only Live Twice (1964)
* The Man With The Golden Gun (1965; prob. finished by Kingsley Amis)
* Octopussy, The Living Daylights And The Property Of A Lady (more storiesl, 1966)
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Personally I'd rather watch Titanic again, figuring in Evita Madonna's acting is better than her singing... Madonna's voice was actually too low,
causing "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" to be transposed down a third.
Barry Lyndon won 4 Oscars, none of them were for Kubrick. Kubrick's only Oscar was for 2001: A Space Odyssey, for the special effects. The Oscar was
on display at the exhibition.
James Bond books are still written. There's a "young James Bond" that was out not too long ago. You'll find it in the Children's book section.
What sort of Dutch movies do you get to see through SBS?
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BTW I saw the remake of the poseidon adventure recently.
O boy, can't they find an original good script nowadays.
The Idea is totally ruined.
In the original, the part before the disaster is longer so you know more of the key persons. The way out in the old one was more rational then/than in
the new one.
so, the original is better
Same for the Titanic btw
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BBP
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James Bond books are still written. There's a "young James Bond" that was out not too long ago. You'll find it in the Children's book section.....
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Come one, the man died in '64 so he doesn't write books anymore
I've read young James Bond when I was young and it is not written by IF. He did write an Childrens book, the title is Chitty chitty bang bang.
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The question was "did they stop being written?" Fleming may be dead, but that doesn't stop the Bond books!
It's like Willy Vandersteen still making Suske en Wiske.
PS Scallopino: just remembered the worst movie experience was not Evita. It was Romeo + Juliet, with Leo di Cap as Romeo. And I had to sit through it
at school, TWICE. 
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It is not the same
Suske and Wiske are continued
James Bond Junior is as Ellery Queen junior
Figure is based on a novelle picture, and that some sort of stealing.
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Have you read any recent Suske en Wiske albums? They're incomparable to the moralizing masked man stories Vandersteen wrote.
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That is an opinion and no fact.
Every new S&W must be according the Vandersteen rules.
Within these borders the new staf has a limited freedom.
That is completely different from developing a figure around one from someone else.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DED
I don't know how many James Bond books there are. I have not seen new ones. We have
For your eyes only
Moonraker
The spy who loved me
You only live twice
Thunderball
Docter No
The man with the Golden Gun
Diamonds are forever
On her majesty's secret service
Octopussy
Al Dutch translations
For your eyes only is translated in
"Van een blik tot een moord" if you translate that in English it says "From a view to a kill" In the book there are five parts starting with From a
view to a kill then For your eyes only, The quantum theory, risk, and the "Hildebrand rariteit"
The first titles are also movie titles but not completely the same story in fact For your eyes only is completely different, from the other stories
parts are used.
Ian Fleming s no longer among us (died in 1964)
All the bond books
James Bond
* Casino Royale (1953)
* Live And Let Die (1954)
* Moonraker (1955)
* Diamonds Are Forever (1956)
* From Russia With Love (1957)
* Doctor No (1958)
* Goldfinger (1959)
* For Your Eyes Only (several storiesl, 1960)
* Thunderball (1961)
* The Spy Who Loved Me (1962)
* On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1963)
* You Only Live Twice (1964)
* The Man With The Golden Gun (1965; prob. finished by Kingsley Amis)
* Octopussy, The Living Daylights And The Property Of A Lady (more storiesl, 1966) |
Ok i underestimated his longevity a little... If Fleming was still alive today he would be 98 years old! But he wasn't really around for long after he
started writing the Bond stuff.
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Personally I'd rather watch Titanic again, figuring in Evita Madonna's acting is better than her singing... Madonna's voice was actually too low,
causing "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" to be transposed down a third.
Barry Lyndon won 4 Oscars, none of them were for Kubrick. Kubrick's only Oscar was for 2001: A Space Odyssey, for the special effects. The Oscar was
on display at the exhibition.
James Bond books are still written. There's a "young James Bond" that was out not too long ago. You'll find it in the Children's book section.
What sort of Dutch movies do you get to see through SBS? |
The funny thing about Titanic is that the score is really great i reckon, but then you have Celine Dion who destroys anything the film may have had
going for it.
Did you hear Madonna's "Hung Up" single? As much as i don't like her, whoever thought to put that ABBA sample in is a genius.
Kubrick only won one oscar! Bloody Reese Witherspoon has won an oscar!
What a joke.
About the Dutch films: i have here in front of me this week's tv guide...
TUESDAY 14, 1.00pm: Nynke (2001), starring Monic Hendrickx, Jeroen Willems.
FRIDAY 17, 11.30pm: Grimm (2003), starring Jacob Derwig.
do you know them?
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I have heard about Nynke, but I haven't seen recent Dutch movies. Dutch movies nowadays are movies with a social message, low budget, low speed, and
above all terrible sound.
They use the original soundtrack recorded on the set. So you will have a lot of terrible noises in the back ground. The social messages are mainly
regarding living in a multicultural society.
Multicultural is in my opinion 100 % compatible with the international Dutch word "apartheid" so most pictures I dislike. Also the Dutch language is
spoken in a small area wich means that most Dutch movies are made in cooperation with Belgian companies, resulting in a Dutch/Belgian cast. Not always
a guarantee for a solid movie. Dutch Movie scne at this moment is boosted by the successes of Dutch directors in the States as Jan de Bont
(Speed,Tweister) and off course Paul Verhoeven who made Robocop, Striptease, Basic Instinct.
The best Dutch all time movies stay (in my opinion)
Turkish Delight (Paul Verhoeven)
The Lift (elevator) (Dick Maas)
Amsterdamned (Dick Maas)
In Holland Turkish Delight is choosen as the best Dutch movie ever.
Apart from these I highly appreciate the work of the late Bert Haanstra (Who won a Oscar for his documentary Glass).
If you are interested in what kind of humor he has ther is a movie downloadable for free.
The movie is about the in 1994 closed Technology museum Evoluon.
The link to download the complete movie 125mb
Evoluon the movie, click here
It is a very interesting movie. It is mainly without words.
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Is Grimm Dutch? I didn't know. Nynke got well-known, though.
Oh, and DED: there's one Dutch movie out next Thursday that I'm definitely going to see: Crusade in Jeans.
The Dutch movie scene has been booming because of the convenient subsiding system.
My favourite movie is Karakter, which is also Dutch. It won an oscar for best foreign language film. If you ever have a chance to see it, please do.
It's my favourite movie, after my favourite book, by my favourite author.
Another motion picture I have added to my top list, is Lola Rennt (Run Lola Run), by Tom Tywker. It's about a girl and a boy. The boy phones his girl
in panic, because he needs 100.000 DM in 20 minutes, or else he'll be killed. So his girl starts to run. The story is told 3 times, a bit different
every time, resulting in a very different ending.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DED
I have heard about Nynke, but I haven't seen recent Dutch movies. Dutch movies nowadays are movies with a social message, low budget, low speed, and
above all terrible sound.
They use the original soundtrack recorded on the set. So you will have a lot of terrible noises in the back ground. The social messages are mainly
regarding living in a multicultural society.
Multicultural is in my opinion 100 % compatible with the international Dutch word "apartheid" so most pictures I dislike. Also the Dutch language is
spoken in a small area wich means that most Dutch movies are made in cooperation with Belgian companies, resulting in a Dutch/Belgian cast. Not always
a guarantee for a solid movie. Dutch Movie scne at this moment is boosted by the successes of Dutch directors in the States as Jan de Bont
(Speed,Tweister) and off course Paul Verhoeven who made Robocop, Striptease, Basic Instinct.
The best Dutch all time movies stay (in my opinion)
Turkish Delight (Paul Verhoeven)
The Lift (elevator) (Dick Maas)
Amsterdamned (Dick Maas)
In Holland Turkish Delight is choosen as the best Dutch movie ever.
Apart from these I highly appreciate the work of the late Bert Haanstra (Who won a Oscar for his documentary Glass).
If you are interested in what kind of humor he has ther is a movie downloadable for free.
The movie is about the in 1994 closed Technology museum Evoluon.
The link to download the complete movie 125mb
Evoluon the movie, click here
It is a very interesting movie. It is mainly without words.
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Thanks DED, i'll check it out. Basic Instinct, i have that on tape for certain reasons that shall remain nameless. The only thing about all the "World
Movies" that SBS shows, including ones from the Netherlands, are all recent.
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Is Grimm Dutch? I didn't know. Nynke got well-known, though.
Oh, and DED: there's one Dutch movie out next Thursday that I'm definitely going to see: Crusade in Jeans.
The Dutch movie scene has been booming because of the convenient subsiding system.
My favourite movie is Karakter, which is also Dutch. It won an oscar for best foreign language film. If you ever have a chance to see it, please do.
It's my favourite movie, after my favourite book, by my favourite author.
Another motion picture I have added to my top list, is Lola Rennt (Run Lola Run), by Tom Tywker. It's about a girl and a boy. The boy phones his girl
in panic, because he needs 100.000 DM in 20 minutes, or else he'll be killed. So his girl starts to run. The story is told 3 times, a bit different
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As far as i can tell, the Australian film industry is centred on about 5 different actors who are in every single movie and television series. Every
movie and tv show is the same: boring. If there are more adventurous movies being made here, they won't get enough funding for people like me to see
them.
I'll keep my eye out for Karakter other films because there's a fair chance they'll be on sbs.
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Ha! The same thing has happened in Holland for the past 20 years. As one of my history teachers put it:
"Between 1965 and 1990 there hasn't been a single Dutch film without Monique van de Ven." She's in all three movies DED mentioned as Best Dutch Films,
and many, many more.
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It's just terrible. Here are the cast of all of Australia's movies and shows:
Claudia Karvan.
Vince Colosimo
Colin Friels
...and there are a few others.
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We had the same problem with
Rijk the Gooijer and Monique van de Ven
They appear in a lot of movies.
Now there old and ugly and Rijk is almost dead.
Since a few years more people has an opportunity.
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And now they're all sticking with Victoria Koblenko and Carice van Houten.
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