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| Quote: | | Originally posted by zazkia: ... either be neutral or shut up, or stop being a historian ... |
That's a pretty strident view about historians. I can't imagine not having an opinion about history. |
I think she has a point. As i understand it, an historian's job is to interpret events, movements and ideas; to piece together those things and
synthesise into a coherent account of something in the past.
It's not to make personal value or moral judgements on those events, movements and ideas. Any one can do that.
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What i'm reading for an upcoming (too fast) essay on the Enlightenment:
Condorcet, Sketch for an Historical Picture of the Progress of the Human Mind
Georges Sorel, The Illusion of Progress. Couldn't find an image.
Krishan Kumar, Prophecy and Progress.
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Oh, and
Sidney Pollard, The Idea of Progress.
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Am now halfway through "What A Carve Up!", by Johnathan Coe.....Very quirky, but enjoyable....
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Finally finished Gogol's Dead Souls... Great book, in spite of being unfinished. Somehow I can't put myself to reading when I'm stuck at home in one
room with the PC with internet access...
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Some stories by Tolstoy.
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Began re-reading Naked Lunch....Definitely something that needs to be re-read.....I love it....
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I still need to get that some day...
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I still need to get that some day... |
Thoroughly recommended! But it is a difficult read, Ill warn you now, but there is something very magical about it.....
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I haven't read it, but i've heard it's the origin of 'Steely Dan'.
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Ha! Yes it is. Im not gonna tell you what Steely Dan is though.....Or Steely Dan Mark II. Or Steely Dan Mark III......
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I think I stop with the playboy book, it is sh.. |
Well in the contrary, I finished the book. Pff a good thing is that all main characters are missing or dead in the end. Upon me the writer can follow
soon. It was a bad book.
Now that I have finished this one I started to read the English version of Mr. Mulliner off P.G. Woodhouse.....
But it is a little diificult to read, that special style of the guy.
So I choose to read a French book (in a Dutch translation first) It is called Wet Paint or originally Peinture Fraiche by Robert Escarpit.
The main character in it, is a wall. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gojira1975
Ha! Yes it is. Im not gonna tell you what Steely Dan is though.....Or Steely Dan Mark II. Or Steely Dan Mark III...... |
 Unfortunately my pop music teacher gave it away... (the meaning of the name,
not a Steely Dan)
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So he told you what Steely Dan is in Naked Lunch?....Not the sort of thing to be discussing with students?!!
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She did, yeah. She's my popular music teacher, we were discussing art rock and stuff, played some Pink Floyd... She also introduced us to Yes, by
saying how much she dislikes the band.
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Do not mind my asking BBP, but where is the seat of your bike..... ?.....
[Edited on 29-4-06 by BBP]
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Unfortunately, that went way over my head Ded.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BBP
She did, yeah. She's my popular music teacher, we were discussing art rock and stuff, played some Pink Floyd... She also introduced us to Yes, by
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Dildos are surely still a strange topic for an art rock discussion nonetheless?.....I know you guys are liberal, but still....
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No really! Teacher was talking about Steely Dan... The thing about culture is that it's at the moment very "hip" to dislike Metallica, Charles Ives,
Michael Jackson, and Steely Dan among others. She didn't understand why SD should be so impopular just out of fashion.
Still reading Tolstoy, and thoroughly enjoying it. He's got such a fluent style of writing.
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I like the Dan, but most of my friends don't, because they feel it isn't "proper raw rock" and not 'heartfelt', and just too deliberately crafted and
arty. I've heard similar complaints about FZ, though...
Hey kids! Do you hear that sound? . . . Freaks will be coming from miles around!
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