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He certainly hasn't responded to my last post to him where I said I give in. It seems to have had some effect and he's not posting
as much at the moment. He's still managed to drop in and hurl abuse at someone else there though.
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I hate it when I fall off the page.
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Does it hurt as much as when you fall off you bike? LoL!
You gotta lotta ducks in a small space.Does that make you a hoarder or just plain quackers!?! Ha,Ha!
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Quote: Originally posted by polydigm  | | He certainly hasn't responded to my last post to him where I said I give in. It seems to have had some effect and he's not posting
as much at the moment. He's still managed to drop in and hurl abuse at someone else there though. |
He did the same to me.Once you say give,he's off to someone else.He's PMed me to to say someone else is lyng about some petty detail that's important
to him and no one else.Very tiring.
Kirk to bridge: Why have we changed coarse Mr.Chekov?
Chekov to Kirk: cleons Kapt.,cleons!
He's  as a loon!
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All quiet on the BB front, spent a sick morning and OK afternoon, enjoying the sun while it lasts. Tried to get my legs to bronze, but they won't do
that anymore.
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It's 2pm and I'm off to see the Grandmothers!     The whole nine yards of them.
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So Cleon probably is some genuine kind of retard and I feel sorry for him. What's JP Funk's excuse? That guy has a nine inch nail for a brain.
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ha! and a hammer for that nail - and a chip on his shoulder big enough to carry it?
well, I guess I could have predicted it. But what I was just talking about with 'behavior c' the other day, and kiirk saw it in light as well with our
dear Gianni, he in turn gave us a resounding example of one of the very things I was trying to elucidate. So I didn't predict it but maybe could
have... call it the Key of 'G',,, started on page 34 of this thread
It looks like amero-centrism, feels like defensive ignorance but follows the pattern of 'lead, follow or get out of the way'
hahahahahaa!
Frank used to say that mental illness was our biggest problem. Trouble is how to define it and define wellness? Psychiatry and psychoanalysis lost its
way with pharma-industries and insurance and such. Scholarship has turned into a pay-as-you go 'research opportunity', at best. Yet there are degrees
of wellness just as there are degrees of illness. Here too is where politics and economics insert their all-knowing heads into the batter and declares
they know what's best, acc to their help which is the money people again... The experts still know things, as do law enforcement and yes, even
people's practical common sense still exists!
Frank had a way of shocking people and getting them, forcing them to think, sometimes about uncomfortable topics. But if he was for anyone, it was the
ugly, left-behind weirdos. I believe Frank talked about people's hangups - because it's funny, because the poodles react, but also, to get those
listening to get over their own hangups. Imagine what people could do if they weren't crippled by whatever emotional tick or fetishism or whatever.
But first you have to get them talking. Get them past whatever it is. And then recognize it for what it is and then maybe do something about it. But
therapy is only afforded to those who can pay for it and most often it's the poor who most need it but have only the most destructive antidotes. Here
in mid-America, crystal meth, and alcoholism have destroyed a generation or two. Oxycontin is the new contender. Bigger cities are decimated by crack
and heroin.
I chalk all that up to an idiot drug war and lack of constructive local or national policies dealing with issues of mental illness. Since the '60's.
Plus, it seems many more people than I was aware of thought school was to teach kids how to read the tv guide and maybe balance a checkbook. With the
expected results.
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jaypfunk? I think it's all just a game for him. He's a FOR REAL Zappa nut! I'd buy him a beer, go see him play drums. Send him $100 to help him with
his rent or a hard drive in the mail if he lost his. Would I ask him why he's such an asshole so often? No. Because he'd say something like 'What is
your heart broken? Does your little asshole of a heart cry for me?' or something better. So why bother?
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This pretty much hits the nail on
the head for me. For all the negative shit that the USA gets associated with, the acceptance of psychotherapy has always surprised me. In Australia
it's still only for the truly mentally ill. Once you've been analysed here in some way you become stigmatised and have to mention it on job
application forms and so on. We're still a long way from acceptance that everyone needs therapy at some time or other in their lives and it's nothing
to be ashamed of.
Sure, there are some full on mental illnesses that would need to be taken into account for employment purposes but the stigma prevents people who
really need it from seeking it, after, for example, a bereavement or a car accident or an abusive father or whatever.
Humans are so full of shit sometimes. And I'm not referring to people in need of therapy, I mean the ones who are completely in denial and give
therapy a bad name. Of course it's still a young science and there's a lot of junk therapy out there too, but we all have times to varying degrees
when an impartial ear that can help unravel the pain without attaching any stigma to it wouldn't go astray.
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Is Gianni his real name? I rarely go to
Zappateers but he's hilarious in that thread, or sad, I can't quite decide which.
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poly: agreed with all you said. Gianni was an alternate spelling I picked to be more discrete.
Bonny! I have a lot of collected things. I collect and then grow tired and then find something else to collect. Mostly they stay in a state of
disorganization. Books, cd's, old notebooks. The things I currently use stay out, reference material - and I use a lot of things for that - is kept
easy to find on a shelf. I have notebooks full of lists and others showing what I'm doing, what I listened to that day. Only be useful when I'm dead
and gone and someone wants to make a movie or a book - way too much info. But it seemed important at the time. Why? Things are so weird today and I
hear stories all my life of people doing average things and getting noticed for it. Of course I know, my life is normal to me, but someone else who
doesn't live this life may one day find it interesting. Not because I am or think I am special but because how I live may be of interest some day.
I've lived a life outside of the normal rounds, made choices that aren't expected etc.
As a history nut, out of the way but ordinary activity for those ordinary people centuries ago is really interesting today because it is different
from us. The trick is securing long-term preservation.
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Things are worse with my mother than we first realised but at the same time we've achieved a lot in the last week in fixing up her situation, so,
overall, matters appear to have improved.
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Sorry to hear that, hope things will work out soon...
Tomorrow I won't be here again since I'll be playing blind guide dog, but today and perhaps/probably continuing after that, I am translating articles
from various sources that can be found in the Dutch Royal Library. There are over 700 articles in total, so unless they're special I'm not translating
them. Just did a gorgeous review of the '71 concert with Flo and Eddie, Billy The Mountain travelling to Amsterdam and visiting Soestdijk... man how I
wish I could've been there...
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Thanks for your wishes Bonny. We're gradually taking things in hand so she has less to stress about and can focus on her remaining interests.
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And Poly be a little selfish. Altough a life never is completed, this is your change to say the things you want to say, ask the questions you want to
ask, share the things you want to share. Things about your early years were you have no memories from, everything about your grandparents and the
youth of your mother. For your mother are old memories closer by than you think. When she passes its all gone. It will help you later in that hard
time that is coming closer and closer and its nice to give them through to later generations.
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DED, agreed. There's already been a lot of that. She's written quite a few stories down as well.
Anyway, the good news is that her scan showed no signs outside of what would be expected at her age and she has an infection that they believe was
affecting her mind along with some dietary deficiencies which are being rectified. She's taking antibiotics now and hopefully we should see an
improvement in her mood within a week or so.
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Finished browsing 488 articles featuring the word Zappa from the Dutch Royal Library. A lot of those are announcements of a TV show, ads for record
stores, articles featuring a football player called Zappa, and betting tips on a horse named Zappa. And one porn entry, which was a misread of the
word "zappen".
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Dare I ask?
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If the question is "what is porn doing in the newspaper", the answer is "that's the Telegraaf for you". If the question is "what sort of porn" it's
the graphic two-word lines they use to sell those phone performances or whatever.
Anyway, I'm browsing the Volkskrant archive online, which goes back to 1994, and one of the things I found is:
"During an official visit to France, Khaddafi put a bedouin tent in the garden of his Parisian hotel. Everyone thought that was funny. Frank Zappa's
elder brother: no conventions, surrounded by gorgeous women, old Sahara rocker."
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