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The oldest book I have, which is in serious disrepair, is from 1890. It's a book about chess from England and its new price was one shilling.
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The oldest one I have is from, what is it, the mid 1800s? It's German and written in Fraktur.
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The oldest book I have is from the early 1900's, it's titled: "L'avortement, sa Nécessité, ses Procédés et ses Dangers" by G.Hardy. It's about the
control of the population growth and the "Sexual Problem" and it's "solution, Neo-Malthusianism . I found it in an old empty house where I worked, a
few years ago, with a few notes about some classical music shows the owner had attended. I decided to keep it because I assumed it hd some sort of
"historical" value. Might take it to the library, one day, to see what they think about it.
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I've started reading the book The Intellectuals and the Masses by John Carey. It's quite shocking when you look into what the intellectuals of the
late 19th and early 20th century really thought. People who I had just assumed by default were authors worthy of respect that basically turn out to be
a bunch of fascists. That book you're referring to there seems to be of that ilk. In the early stages of the 20th century, these intellectuals weren't
worried about population growth due to limited resources (they were still behaving as if those were infinite), but instead they were afraid of being
overrun by common people. This is the period when eugenics was coming into fashion.
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It's very difficult, and I can't help but relate it to #MeToo, but as a musicologist you can't get around Wagner. Or Stravinsky.
Or longer ago, Tromboncino, don Gesualdo, Nicolaas Gombert... even Mozart was known to be quite a cad. Zappa himself had a number of objectionable
sides.
If there's something we need to put a halt to, it's continually using our 21st century perspective to judge people, their deeds and their work from a
completely different era. A lot has happened over the past hundred years. By the late 1800s, industrial revolution had a strong grip on society -
along with 7 day work weeks, 16 hour work days and child labour as about the only way to make ends meet for a major class of people.
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The importance of John Carey's book is that we are all still living in that era. We all still live in largely patronistic societies. Our economies are
still controlled by people who largely believe they are destined to rule.
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'Tis the season to feel puney I guess...
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Why's that?
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Been having intestinal turmoil for some time now... combined with the cold has been making me feel miserable...
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That's no good, I hope it gets better soon.
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Hope you'll get better soon, Bonny.
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On Saturday sis and I went to the carnaval parade, but I paid for it on Sunday with a migraine. Today it's back to work because I'm replacing somebody
who's celebrating the season more than I do.
Will post the pics eventually but I'm exhausted...
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Turned out to be quite a good day with the Dutch secretary of foreign affairs forced to resign!
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I've joined the ranks of injured bicycle riders. I was riding home from a meeting the other evening and came across a mother and her very young son on
push bikes waiting at a side street that I was approaching. It seemed clear to me that the mother had seen me and that they were waiting for me to
pass before crossing the road. At the last second, the boy decided to shoot across right in front of me. I did everything in my power not to injure
that boy and ended up doing a somersault over my handle bars and over the boy. I ended up with some significant injuries but it seems no bones are
broken. To add insult to injury, while I was dragging myself up off the road, the father appeared and started shouting abuse and blame at me. Some
people are just unbelievable.
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Sorry to hear about that Poly, that's nasty! What part of you got hurt?
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Lower right shin. Both knees and right shoulder. Heels of both hands. Lower right ribcage, which is the most painful and the reason I still need pain
killers. I banged my head as well but my helmet minimised that.
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Ouch, bicycle accidents can be pretty brutal, I've broken my wrist several times because of that. I'm sorry for you, Poly.
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Sorry to hear about that...
I recall when you broke your elbow, did you fully recover from that Aqua? My ankle still gives me trouble.
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Thanks guys. I broke my wrist when I was 13 and that is still problematic. Wrists and ankles - not good things to break.
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Quote: Originally posted by BBP | Sorry to hear about that...
I recall when you broke your elbow, did you fully recover from that Aqua? My ankle still gives me trouble. | Yes, totally, but it took quite a while before I didn't feel any pain or difficulty using my right arm.
I've had a pain in the left elbow for a few months now. I thought it was a tendinitis, so I stopped doing sports, but my work still requires physical
effort, so it doesn't heal as fast as I wish. I'll probably go and see a doctor if it doesn't improve.
On a different note, I've just bought myself a 32 cm wide life guaranteed inox frying pan. I'm finally gonna be able to cook the quantities of food I
want without being extremely careful that some doesn't fall on the ground when I stir it. What a relief! lol.
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