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Forum Cleanup
I just feel it's necessary to explain why I banned Isaac. I sent him, and Zombie, a final warning to clean up behaviour. He managed to insult me in
his reaction through U2U, so I banned him.
It's terrible I have to put my foot down this way, it's against anything of free speech that I feel so strongly about. It's a shame that people can't
deal with others in a normal way, something I never thought of when I took over this forum. Or when I wrote up the rules. Or when I formed my opinion
on free speech. 
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Huck_Phlem
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He just doesn't get social decorum.
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What's worse is how other people like to push him over the line.
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I don't. I refuse to respond to him.
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Some do. And it just takes one to cause a shipload of bumps.
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Huck_Phlem
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This is true. I just don't understand the whole bump thing. is he trying to burry the responses to his remarks?
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Yep. Especially the LP Sides Over 20 Minutes thread.
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BBP
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Well, as he referred to me as "psycho" I see no reason to post his PMs here...
| Quote: | | Quote: | Isaac:
Your behaviour has become so annoying, that you are namecalling forum members. As you are showing no signs of improvement and, worse, are completely
claiming innocent in spite of the evidence of you doing so right above it, I hereby issue you your final warning.
If you don't start behaving towards me and other people on this or other community, I will ban you and delete every offending post. Many of the people
you choose to harm "that are on an other forum" are respected users of PackardGoose.com and made this a warm, friendly place. Stop calling them
no-lives or trolls, because they are not. You are with your behaviour chasing away these members and therefore you erased all the kindness and freedom
this forum hosted.
Stop it, or get out. |
Frankly, your behavior here is more insulting than anything I have ever posted, insisting that I am "driving people away" and "erasing all the
kindness and freedom this forum hosted" when I never did anything other than sarcastically respond to a couple of stalkers who only registered to this
forum once they found out that I was posting here. I am innocent. I am behaving. I'd just like to remind you that not once did I ever insult you or
give you grief, and yet you still found time to refer to me as a "whino" and told me to "just stop assholing about".
"Freedom" is not threatening to remove the right to speech from an individual who has done nothing wrong. |
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That is exactly Isaac's problem, that he doesn't think he's got a problem. He has to have the last word. As you've said many times Bonny, not reacting
is not reacting. Making a reply to say you are not going to dignify something with a reply is dignifying it with a reply. The fact is, everyone can
see what his problem is and he is just being unbelievably bloody minded about the whole thing. Zombie was almost exactly the same. He was trying to
tell you that Isaac was a problem and you replied that he shouldn't mention it any more and so he replied trying to tell you that you don't get it.
That is just so dumb it's unbelievable.
The thing about Isaac at zappa.com is that the total number of posts from everyone who reacts to him, albeit annoying, is still less than the number
of posts Isaac makes either bumping or justifying his own insanity. Mathematically, that is a very large number of people complaining about Isaac,
whereas Isaac is the only one complaining about any one of those people. That is a complete polar opposite lack of symmetry. And when Isaac is not
around, it dies down pretty quickly to a relatively pleasant place to visit.
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bump 
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BBP
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I'm trying to talk past it a lot. It seems to be the best tactic, but as long as people still react to Isaac it's not going to stop. Gosh he's like my
mother's husband who's manically depressed, continuously trying to get attention.
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That's what I'm doing now with Isaac, making no replies or comments. I wish everyone else would do the same, but then there was a time when I tried to
reason with him, so I suppose everyone has to work their own way through it. He is getting increasingly bizarre and his reasoning is becoming more and
more disconnected and arbitrary.
I really think Galoot should be letting it go by now, whatever he's tried hasn't worked and it's time to give up. The point is that with Isaac nothing
works.
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I won't respond to him unless he speaks to me directly and even then ...
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BBP
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Yeah he PM'd me on the Zappa forum to clear up that it wasn't his address that Galoot posted.
I replied that it's irrelevant. What if some moron sends a death threat to that poor 82-year-old?
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Isaac lives on Big Pine Key, which is right about in the middle of the Florida Keys.
Actually, he may not live there anymore. As of a few months ago, his father's house was in the process of being foreclosed. His father was also in the
midst of some serious legal problems.
Isaac told me he might have to move in with his mother, who lives on Key West.
My take on Isaac is that he's basically suffering from island fever. He's very lonely and bored to death. He needs to get the fuck out of there and
meet some real people; maybe a girl that isn't his sister.
Someone once told me that Isaac acts like he was raised by wolves. But I don't think that's correct: wolves are social creatures...
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Hmmm... seems like he has a lot of problems... I don't envy him.
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Huck_Phlem
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I just tried to ignore him but he made me angry why he made me so angry I could've....
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He's getting worse. His latest stunt was to fake a screen shot of the Randomonium thread page with Galoot's name all over it. Doug pointed out he'd
goofed because of posts with zero replies and then I quoted Doug and made some comments of my own - which is something I do rarely for Isaac now - and
then Isaac came back with a mouthful of abuse which I will not reply to.
The point is, if he really is joking with that screen shot then he's in much worse condition than I realised. If he was serious than he's just an
idiot, which is forgivable I guess, but if he was joking than he's building up a thread which is parodying indisputable evidence that he really is a
pain in the ass, which is really out there in the denial stakes. I've come across some fucking lunatics in my time but none with his tenacity for the
absurd.
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I have come across internet kooks but he's about the 2nd or 3rd worse I have ever seen! One chick would create two or three screen names and start an
argument with one and defend herself with the other. Even posing as an Italian guy once. Fucking nut case! so Isaac isn't the worst I have seen.
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polydigm
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by Huck_Phlem: I have come across internet kooks but he's about the 2nd or 3rd worse I have ever seen! One chick would
create two or three screen names and start an argument with one and defend herself with the other. Even posing as an Italian guy once. Fucking nut
case! so Isaac isn't the worst I have seen. |
So, she was the first and second worse? 
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