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Ulysses
started 31mar09
05apr09, p 36
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That's not bad progress. There will be many times you will want to give up, but it's worth it. It was helpful to me to find some kind of reference
guide so I could read up about what I'd just read.
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Oh that's always nice! I could really use that when I was reading LOTR (Oh! Was THAT what happened!) But understandably I haven't been able to read
much with my B-day and all, so I'm still at page 17.
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I've advanced to the end of the 1st chapter now. Yay.
I'm having troubles with the lingo. EG I noticed the word "kip" a couple of times. Kip in Dutch means chicken. According to my dictionary it means
sleep, but neither definition makes sense in the context.
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umm, what page?
this might be helpful.
How long is the whole text in yours? Mine is 738 pages without preface or intro or endpaper.
Also this edition is split into sections with a big roman numeral for each section.
This section I, has three smaller parts that may correspond to your chapters! and divide at
page 24 and 36.
Section II starts on page 54.
The reason I go on like this is to make it easier to be able to compare corresponding parts of text. Even if your book is 500 pages long or Section
II might start at page 35, say, I can still have an idea where I can quickly find what you're looking at without having to go back and read pages and
pages or look ahead etc.etc and instead just find it. Or that's the idea anyway.
I love what he does with language and in mine there aren't any quotation marks so you have to think a little more about if Stephen is saying something
or just thinking it. How about you?
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Yeah I have that problem too! I have that with most English books because of the different notation conventions. French use Fast Forward symbols,
which is more recognizable.
I've finished the first section of chapter one, now at page 30. Didn't do any reading yesterday, wasn't feeling too well.
My edition runs over 695 pages.
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p 51
thought of writing down all the words I have a real problem with.
But then I thought, so much of that is so abstract anyway, like shading. Some I know or understand. Some I don't know but can figure it out,
especially like the general tone of abstract things.
I think.
I should be able to get back to this now that the month is over...
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Lucky you... I moved it when we were cleaning the room for Grannys visit and now I'm hoping I can find it back.
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ya it's a journey
[ba-dum-bump]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by punknaynowned
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thought of writing down all the words I have a real problem with.
But then I thought, so much of that is so abstract anyway, like shading. Some I know or understand. Some I don't know but can figure it out,
especially like the general tone of abstract things.
I think.
I should be able to get back to this now that the month is over... |
You're right. One of the problems is that Joyce invents his own language, and mixes words together and such, sometimes from different languages
especially the parts involving Stephen (because that's the kind of person Stephen is (who is a young Joyce))...and you can't find that stuff in
dictionaries.
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I'm only on p 74 after two months.
Not very good.
Did ya find yours BonnyB?
I like it overall even tho his characters don't seem to like women.
[Edited on 3-6-09 by punknaynowned]
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I haven't advanced much, either... it's... I don't know... so difficult to stay focused on it... I'm thinking of reading the plot on Wikipedia so I
know where the track is.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BBP
I haven't advanced much, either... it's... I don't know... so difficult to stay focused on it... I'm thinking of reading the plot on Wikipedia so I
know where the track is. |
That's what I did, but don't read it until you've read the book first!
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I did read it, so... I suppose I have to read it again a few more times. Now is the perfect opportunity of course!
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p 190 after 11 months. Not very good.
I read it though whenever, waiting in line somewhere, waiting for word to get back from whatever,and so the way it fits 'in my world' is like in
broken conversation anyway. As if I am overhearing other people's thoughts -- different context, different way of thinking, in brief little
snapshots.
I Don't look at it at all like I did in reading the odyssey of homer...
[Edited on 24-2-10 by punknaynowned]
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Happy Bloomsday!!!
p 274
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p. 390
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p. 539. I read 116 pages in a year's time from June 16, 2011 - June 16, 2012. and 47 of that in the last week.
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